Everyone better stay out of my kitchen. I’m all for teaching kids to cook. But I don’t want amateurs on the field during the Super Sowl of cooking days.
I like Super Sowl. I’m pretty sure it was a typo but please leave it as is. It’s got Sowl.
Setting the table would be an easy task that can be taught throughout the year, and that skill can then be employed during your super sowl.
They can set the table before I wake up. But when it’s time to cook I need them out.
Or, teach them to cook. Did that for years and now they have their own families and can cook their own meals.
Reread my earlier comment. I’m all for teaching them to cook. The rest of the year.
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I’m with you. I don’t want any boys, girls, or anyone else in the kitchen while I’m cooking, unless they’re there to bs and chat while I cook. This is not just on Thanksgiving, this is any day of the year.
… People don’t do this?
Plenty of people do this. But it’s great engagement bait to pretend otherwise
I know everyone is raised differently, but i find it hard to believe that this is a real problem.
You should be doing that all year long. These are not ferral kind. You have a responsability to parent them.
Actually, the rush of the holiday is the time when they should participate slighty less if they are not old enough to do some task independently. Because you must move quick and there is less time for teaching.And have your daughters come to the garage and help replace brakepads on their bikes, install curtain rods, etc… etc…
My brother is the best chef in the family. You will always miss out on good food if you don’t screen all your kids for chef talent. Gender roles often lead to people not doing things they might be good at.
Considering gender roles, commercial kitchens are primarily and historically male dominated. The idea of the woman always being the cook is extremely antiquated.
I assume the families that need to hear this won’t listen.
In our house Mom was the chef and us boys were the su-chefs. If you want to live under this roof you’d better help with the cooking, serving, cleaning and everything else in the household. That’s the best way to learn how to do it all yourself.
I was already rolling meatballs and frying schnitzels when I was in early high school.
Edit: I have been informed that I use Linux too much and that it is sous chef, not su-chef or sudo-chef. Although my mom is the root user.
*sous chef. Sous is French for under. So the person directly under the chef is the sous chef.
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Are you sure she wasn’t the sudo chef?
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Every male in my family can cook and clean house.
And they cook better than their girlfriends/wives.
So yea, maybe hold your sexism.
Have you considered your family might be the exception and not the rule
Do people not normally involve their kids in this sort of thing equally?
Growing up, no.
Will my potential kids be sharing the work equally? Definitely. I always got into so much trouble for asking why I had to do housework and my brother didn’t.
I hadn’t realised quite how different the female upbringing experience was to the male one until I talked about it with my partner. Quite different it turns out. We’re both about 40, and from Ireland, and she was absolutely expected to do shit like this when the men weren’t.
Event today some of her siblings families are heavily heavily sexist.
No kidding. The enforcement is often kind of brutal too. As a couple the house not being clean creates a pervasive sense of judgement that falls on the feminine half of a couple. It doesn’t matter if they are a killer breadwinner with an amazing career and winning at life the messaging and conditioning from childhood and enforced by older friends and relatives is still that they are at their core a failure if their house doesn’t meet regulation. That judgement is not extended to the masculine partner because he’s kind of expected to be a hapless subordinate who maybe helps but is not responsible for it. That old “sorry about the state of the place” is practically just begging for social leniency from deeply ingrained shame.
If your fem partner is neurotic about cleanliness that’s basically why. They are made to feel horrible about themselves when company comes calling.
This is so real, I swear to god. I joke about how neurotic I am about housework, and my house is always pristine, but still my worst nightmare is someone stopping by unexpectedly. My house can be spick and span and I’ll still apologize for the state of it.
I didn’t understand her fixation on these kind of expectations until I really got to know her family and discovered more about her upbringing. I didn’t see it initially and if I’m honest, didn’t really believe it, but slowly I came round to understanding. If the shoe was on the other foot I’d push back a lot too.
It’s not just family and upbringing it’s kind of enforced by basically everyone a little bit. House is a mess - oh (fem partner) must be struggling poor dear. The state of the house just sits in a corner of their mind all day everyday like a weight dragging them down like the telltale heart.
Once you see the effect of it you can’t really unsee it.
Not in my family. Us women were expected to be the cooks, cleaners, everything. Every family get-together the men would just sit and talk and the boys would go out to play, and the older women would do the cooking, then come make the girls do the dishes.
My sister and I finally called them out on it, and to their credit they did try and make the boys help with the clean-up… although they never did that great of a job, because they’d never been taught how.
And how old is that?
My mom involved my brother. I took the opportunity to play video games all day.
For those who are talking about how this didn’t happen in your household growing up, please remember you are 1, at best 2 generations removed from full on enforcement of gender roles suppressing things like this, many times physically enforced. So yea, maybe your dad was the one who baked the turkey or did the dishes, but you can be damn sure his dad didn’t.
They’re survival skills that everyone should know.
Lol, I’m a dude and, I remember when I was a kid, there was sometimes holiday stuff where the adults would make… the um… (okay I had to google it) it’s called 湯圓 and I just mess with it while they were making it, I’d make weird shapes out of it lol. I don’t think I actually helped, I’m just a troublemaker xD
I only know how to cook basic stuff, I suck at it. I know how to pan-fry eggs, but that’s about it. I think I sort of know how to make a very basic 煎餅, from scratch, the mixing flour and egg and stuff, kinda forgot by now… but I have memories of doing it.
I kinda feel embarassed now that I talk about it. I have no life skills. (pls don’t judge xD)
It’s never too late to learn. Drag doesn’t know any Chinese recipes, but bao should be pretty easy, and すひ is fun and simple, but still has technique to making it look nice. Heating up dried pasta and adding sauce is so easy drag already explained the recipe, so it’s good for beginners.
I support teaching all kids what it takes to exist, regardless of gender.
I just popped in to say that back in the long ago, in my family, only so much help cleaning up was tolerated from men-folk before they were exiled to football on TV so the women could sit at the kitchen table and talk. Trying to assist in cooking was nearly impossible by anyone who wasn’t my grandmother or the aunts that had been cleared for assistance.
I was taught to cook and clean by these same people, but it was clear that at big family meals like Thanksgiving that most of us were in the way if we tried to assist.
I guess what I’m saying is, for sure teach everyone all of it, but big meals might not be the best time. (depending on size of family and a variety of other factors).
At least clear your plate to the sink! :)
My boys are now in their 30s. They always helped with the big family dinners. Even made a couple of them on their own for the rest of us. I do not understand how anyone in my age group, Gen X, could not have raised their sons to be completely independent but somehow, I’m in a minority.
