Five Russian jets have been blown up by Ukraine in the past three days, as Britain said drone attacks on targets within Russia were being launched from inside its own territory.
  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
    05·
    1 year ago

    I’m no fan of Russia

    But at the same time I’m no fan of nuclear war either.

    The escalation of the war has to stop or else we will all feel the fallout of this war.

    • _Z1useri@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Apart from the other points that have been raised: basically every recent report about Ukrainian troops has gotten a bit in it along the lines of “they’re exhausted and have taken heavy losses, but are in good spirits and willing to fight on”.

      Especially if you read what individual soldiers are saying, I get the feeling that this war would not end, even if support to Ukraine where to vanish completely (good luck convincing Poland, the Baltics and Nordics). You’d just get Afghanistan, but the invaders are openly genocidal and don’t give a fuck about civilians at the best of times.

    • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Russia isn’t going to risk the world launching a dozen nukes at them just so they can launch one at Ukraine.

      • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
        01·
        1 year ago

        As much as that makes sense and everyone probably agrees … then why are western nations hedging their bets that the other side won’t launch a missile, even as they escalate the fighting.

        That is Russian Roulette on a global level if you ask me.

        • Raikin@feddit.deEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          The problem is really alternatives. Give into Russias demands and they will do the same again soon. It will also send a message to China for example and make war more likely in the long run.

          What kind of peace agreement would you see possible?

          Btw if you’re interested on the topic of the risk of nuclear war related to Ukraine there’s a good video by Lonerbox in which he also explains the logic of the side you’re arguing with here in more detail.

      • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
        04·
        1 year ago

        Stop financing the war … if everyone is spending billions on a war machine to just fight -> then there will be endless fighting

        if you stop the financing and instead spend a few million on peaceful resolution, negotiation and just simply talking, the fighting will stop and there will be resolutions … it won’t be a simple fix, there will be complications, disputes and wins and losses by both sides (everyone can argue the details about it in whatever way they want) … but the end result will be an end to the fighting.

        Otherwise, if everyone keeps wanting to spend billions on fighting … the fighting will never end.