Depending on how the next four years go I’m on the fence between Bush Jr. and Trump but I’d like to hear from you

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Top 10 suggestions so far (unordered):

  • Andrew Jackson
  • Andrew Johnson
  • George W. Bush Jr
  • Ronald Reagan
  • Richard Nixon
  • James K. Polk
  • Woodrow Wilson
  • James Buchanan
  • Franklin Pierce
  • Donald J. Trump
  • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@slrpnk.net
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    28 days ago

    It’s tempting to pick someone recent, but the real answer is probably Andrew Jackson. He successfully engineered a genocide, trampled the Constitution and human rights, and was actively hostile to limits on Presidential power.

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      28 days ago

      We’ll see if 47 surpasses him. He’s set up to do so. It’s going to be wild to see what happens when Trump order troops to fire into crowds of American citizens.

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        We always seem to get this crazy hyperbole that Trump is going to be some competent fascist that’s going to perform some great coup that will end the US, but in reality it always seems the real damage he does is the evil bureaucracy that erodes rights and liberties while exacerbating things in foreign policy.

        Jan 6th was very flashy, but comparatively speaking, nothing really happened.

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          I’m not afraid of Trump’s competence. I’m afraid of Trump’s cult of personality and the competent people that are now handling him. We didn’t elect Trump, we elected Project 2025.

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        The genocide of the American Indians was a constant affair that persisted from this nation’s founding until, at the earliest, around the turn of the century. Some would say it’s still ongoing. Like how October 7th was not the start of a genocide against Palestinians but a pivotal moment in an ongoing genocide, the same could be said of the Indian Removal Act.

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          28 days ago

          Just wondering if you had a few other overseen examples off the top of your head since you seem knowledgeable on this.

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        28 days ago

        Pretty much all of them actively participated in various genocides and massacres, either directly like native genocide or Philippines or all the aerial massacres of XX and XXI century (even the one who was president for a month), or indirectly like even the “most peaceful president” Carter supported the massacres in Indonesia.