• 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    24 days ago

    If your first date is a glorious scam heist, the future looks promising

    Maybe don’t order carnist options though

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        24 days ago

        Was their comment one of those ‘self-identifying without being asked’ moments? Certainly feels stereotypical to me. But, it couldn’t be that obvious.

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            The animals have no rights and no liberty.

            Why?

            Evolutionary niche

            On the one hand, the breeding of animals dependent on humans destroys evolutionary niches for animals independent from humans, on the other hand, humans destroy evolutionary niches directly.

            Farmers won’t release or breed animals to improve their evolutionary niche, because farmers and consumers don’t farm animals for conservatory reasons.

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            That’s not entirely true because there are expectations depending on the jurisdiction on the standard of care for animals, in several countries they’re legally seen as sentient beings not property.

            Putting them in filthy crowded slaughter houses where they’re kicked and shoved only to be slaughtered as children relative to their life spans is not doing them favour. It is our responsibility to stop exploiting them.

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      24 days ago

      Nuggies are breaded, not just meat, so this is omnivorous not carnist.

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        23 days ago

        Usually vegans use the term carnist to represent those who engage in animal products full stop, rather than breaking down the difference into carnivore and omnivore.

        To us vegans, whether you’re carnivore or omnivore results in the same outcomes. Plus, many conversations surrounding veganism don’t necessarily involve diets, such as with clothing, in which case again it’s easier to use a single term to describe everything non-vegan.

        You might say that non-vegans is a good enough term to describe the above, but that kind of framing can paint carnists in a more benevolent light that acknowledges their freedom of choice, rather than framing carnists with regards to the outcomes they cause, and the victims that suffer because of them.

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          You might say that non-vegans is a good enough term to describe the above, but that kind of framing can paint carnists in a more benevolent light that acknowledges their freedom of choice, rather than framing carnists with regards to the outcomes they cause, and the victims that suffer because of them.

          so it’s just loaded language

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        24 days ago

        Carnism

        Ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products.


        Things can have several properties, for example a thing can be red, which doesn’t mean the thing is not a cube.