• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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      6 days ago

      Has she actually committed any crimes? Yeah, she’s married to a dictator who did but did she have any actual political power or responsibility herself?

      • Linedotdatdot@lemmynsfw.com
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        Maybe this is just an oversimplification on my part, but I think of it like this: Say that my INSERT RELEVANT FAMILY MEMBER HERE spends weeks/months/decades of their life violently oppressing a population just beating the absolute shit out of someone(s) in order to gain - or maintain - some sort of benefit. I’m fully aware of this activity, yet still have no problems availing myself of these clearly ill-gotten gains year after year. Have I committed any crimes? Yeah, maybe I was, say, married to a dictator who did, but… How responsible am I?

        To put it another way: If you saw someone attempting to attack/stab/etc someone else across the street from you, do you feel that you have a moral imperative to call 911 even if you do not personally know either party (having no political power or responsibility, say)?

        “All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing…”

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            Ok, and…? Do you have a point of some kind here, or are we just going to simplistically cut semantic hairs and call it a day? Cuz if it’s gonna be the latter, I don’t really even understand the point of commenting to begin with since we’re apparently just going to go over vocabulary instead of, say, discussing… oh, I dunno, the actual point?

            (The actual point of the conversation - and today’s vocabulary word, coincidentally - is ETHICS. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ )

            • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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              The point was pretty clear, unless you make being obtuse on the internet a hobby of yours. Small advice: This is not how you get people to discuss with you. On the other hand, it’s a great way to get most people to avoid talking to you at all.

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              6 days ago

              The actual point of the conversation is “Has she actually committed any crimes?”. If you look up the definition of today’s vocabulary word, you’ll find that it has no bearing on the actual point.

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                Uh who cares? Anyone who wholeheartedly embraced and benefitted from atrocities can go fuck them selfs.

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                It must be wild to be so incapable and/or afraid of thinking for yourself… You people are fucking crazy 🤣

        • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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          I did not ask if she was immoral, but whether she has committed any actual crimes she “could be tried for”.

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      I wondered this too, but she’s already in Moscow. Any care she can receive there, is still equal to or better than what the average Russian can get.