I have now a tucson and I can tell you with all the stupid an superfluous buttons everywhere that I need te press each time I start the car it is definitely not adding tot the security on the road.
Many buttons just perform a toggle function that could easily be solved with a setting on the screen. Removes a lot of clutter and distraction. Less buttons leave more room for buttons that might be useful to have as a physical button.
Nah, heating, air conditioning, seat venting. I use all of that. But most of the time not. It I like having buttons. I mean, it’s easier if I have to switch menus all the time. You and me both know that touchscreen only is stupid. It sounds nice on paper but then you need to turn on your windshield wipers and chaos unfolds. You love Tesler and that’s okay but boy… why the fuck are we arguing about this. It’s not like we gonna change each other’s opinions and buying a new car. You like touchscreens and I like buttons. Let’s agree on that.
Most VW cars have plenty of buttons and levers on the steering wheel. It’s really not that bad. Except for the fuckup with the touch/swipe buttons on the steering wheel in some cars, lol. I personally like a good mixture of well placed and functional buttons and a touchscreen. The former for primary and secondary features that are frequently used while driving, and the latter for scrolling through settings/playlists and navigation.
I can give many examples about the stupidity of physical buttons in the Hyundai but limit myself to one example the ‘auto hold’ button… each time when I start the car I need to press it because a toggle on the display ‘default on/off’ doesn’t give me the haptic feedback. That I almost hit someone because the car starts to ‘crawl’ at high speed is of less importance. This is just one of the 70+ buttons in a Hyundai Tucson. Because there are so many I need to take my eyes off the road to verify that I press the correct one.
Hm, never had that problem with the Kona. When I start the car it’s automatically active until I hit the gas pedal and in any other case, recuperation is your friend. Recuperation to max and you don’t even have to break anymore.
Never had the problem in a Tesla as well. Once when I first used it I did the settings and all the years after it behaved the way I set it up. Not one physical buttons needed. I guess for some people the number of buttons in a car gives the a feel of importance. 🤷🏼
My uncle’s outback looks like a video slot machine, and everything had to be done through the touchscreen. But to add insult to injury, the Subaru touchscreens are super slow and unresponsive, so they feel like they aren’t working.
I got in right before Subaru went that way and ended up with the best of both worlds: a touchscreen for CarPlay and knobs for…everything else. I still have knobs for the radio if need be.
Plus it’s a six speed manual (Crosstrek).
I get a flyer from the dealership every other week asking if I want to “upgrade.” Sorry, fellas, nothing you have is an upgrade to me. You can’t get a manual gearbox here any more.
Another factor contributing to the discontinuation of manual transmissions is the increasing emphasis on safety features and the integration of advanced driver-assist technologies.
It’s frustrating because “the consumer” doesn’t want manuals, yet car makers add all these things that keep people from paying attention to the road making it - in my opinion - too easy to get distracted. I like that I can’t hold my phone in my hand and drive because I need to shift.
Last summer I was in Ireland, and I was peeking in a few cars on parked on the side of the road just out of curiosity. Almost every one was a manual, it seemed like. It’s not that we COULDN’T have fun, manual cars here. But Americans are lazy.
Yep. And mazda has physical climate button/knobs, with a physical dial to control the infotainment (it’s pretty convenient, if a bit of an older design on most of their vehicles).
I consider it space-age. I haven’t driven a non-Mazda that seemed as well thought out and functional. I wish I could rip one out and put it on my non-Mazda car. I breath a sigh of relief that my partner didn’t buy the Honda with a long finicky touchstrip to control the volume instead of a knob.
That’s why I love brands like Hyundai. Never got rid of the knobs.
I have now a tucson and I can tell you with all the stupid an superfluous buttons everywhere that I need te press each time I start the car it is definitely not adding tot the security on the road.
So, you’re saying that a touchscreen where you have actively look at because you don’t have any haptic feedback is saver on the roads?
If you can achieve the same thing with one single tap instead of going through what the OP has to, then yes.
And depending on how many buttons there are, chances are you have to look at the buttons too.
Many buttons just perform a toggle function that could easily be solved with a setting on the screen. Removes a lot of clutter and distraction. Less buttons leave more room for buttons that might be useful to have as a physical button.
Are you guys playing the pain while driving? The only but I actually used is the hazard light button. The rest are all around the steering wheel.
There you go, you admit that apart from the hazard light button the rest is unnecessary
Nah, heating, air conditioning, seat venting. I use all of that. But most of the time not. It I like having buttons. I mean, it’s easier if I have to switch menus all the time. You and me both know that touchscreen only is stupid. It sounds nice on paper but then you need to turn on your windshield wipers and chaos unfolds. You love Tesler and that’s okay but boy… why the fuck are we arguing about this. It’s not like we gonna change each other’s opinions and buying a new car. You like touchscreens and I like buttons. Let’s agree on that.
Most VW cars have plenty of buttons and levers on the steering wheel. It’s really not that bad. Except for the fuckup with the touch/swipe buttons on the steering wheel in some cars, lol. I personally like a good mixture of well placed and functional buttons and a touchscreen. The former for primary and secondary features that are frequently used while driving, and the latter for scrolling through settings/playlists and navigation.
What is Tesler? Well whatever it is, at least your insinuation is rather off, why would I have a Hyundai now 🙄
I can give many examples about the stupidity of physical buttons in the Hyundai but limit myself to one example the ‘auto hold’ button… each time when I start the car I need to press it because a toggle on the display ‘default on/off’ doesn’t give me the haptic feedback. That I almost hit someone because the car starts to ‘crawl’ at high speed is of less importance. This is just one of the 70+ buttons in a Hyundai Tucson. Because there are so many I need to take my eyes off the road to verify that I press the correct one.
Hm, never had that problem with the Kona. When I start the car it’s automatically active until I hit the gas pedal and in any other case, recuperation is your friend. Recuperation to max and you don’t even have to break anymore.
Never had the problem in a Tesla as well. Once when I first used it I did the settings and all the years after it behaved the way I set it up. Not one physical buttons needed. I guess for some people the number of buttons in a car gives the a feel of importance. 🤷🏼
Honda as well.
Subaru went all in on the touch screen and it suuuuucked.
My uncle’s outback looks like a video slot machine, and everything had to be done through the touchscreen. But to add insult to injury, the Subaru touchscreens are super slow and unresponsive, so they feel like they aren’t working.
Yup, that was my experience with the in laws Ascent.
I got in right before Subaru went that way and ended up with the best of both worlds: a touchscreen for CarPlay and knobs for…everything else. I still have knobs for the radio if need be.
Plus it’s a six speed manual (Crosstrek).
I get a flyer from the dealership every other week asking if I want to “upgrade.” Sorry, fellas, nothing you have is an upgrade to me. You can’t get a manual gearbox here any more.
Huh, let’s see why
Ew.
It’s frustrating because “the consumer” doesn’t want manuals, yet car makers add all these things that keep people from paying attention to the road making it - in my opinion - too easy to get distracted. I like that I can’t hold my phone in my hand and drive because I need to shift.
Last summer I was in Ireland, and I was peeking in a few cars on parked on the side of the road just out of curiosity. Almost every one was a manual, it seemed like. It’s not that we COULDN’T have fun, manual cars here. But Americans are lazy.
Yep. And mazda has physical climate button/knobs, with a physical dial to control the infotainment (it’s pretty convenient, if a bit of an older design on most of their vehicles).
Same as BMW iDrive. I’m sure some are touch screen, but you don’t have to use it.
Mazda is a physical dial by default, but if you want to you can go into the settings and enable the touch screen. Best of both worlds.
I consider it space-age. I haven’t driven a non-Mazda that seemed as well thought out and functional. I wish I could rip one out and put it on my non-Mazda car. I breath a sigh of relief that my partner didn’t buy the Honda with a long finicky touchstrip to control the volume instead of a knob.
Which Honda had the touchstrip instead of a knob?
I don’t doubt one might exist, just haven’t run into one yet.
Its been a few years, but I think it was a Honda Fit.
Thats the reason they dont have me roped into payments right now
I have a Hyundai ioniq 5 and it definitely has touch buttons for some of the things, like climate control.
We got the new Kona and besides the touchscreen we have all the buttons.