There’s no comparison between an old Maytag washer and dryer and a new/current Maytag washer and dryer. This is a case where survivorship bias does not apply, imo. Appliances were built more durable back in the day. There are plenty of older appliances working just fine today while some stuff under 5 years is already getting scrapped because it’s too expensive to fix and/or parts aren’t even available. It’s total nonsense
I’m seeing 20+year old machines taking the same work load as newer machines a fraction of their age and they’re still going just fine while some of the new ones are breaking for no reason outside shitty electronics and/or plastic garbage components. I guess it is survivorship bias. Whatever the case i still can’t take anyone seriously when they claim modern appliances are better than the older stuff. Reliability is a key feature of an appliance but also serviceability in the long term and neither of those are features of modern appliances (at least prole-grade appliances like i work on)
Nope. You’re both correct and you are the one who fails to understand that not everything is an either-or situation.
Especially when both of your points are merely related and not in direct opposition. Old appliances were more generic and more robust, but only an idiot with survivorship bias would say all old appliances were bullet proof.
Survivorship bias is a heck of a drug.
There’s no comparison between an old Maytag washer and dryer and a new/current Maytag washer and dryer. This is a case where survivorship bias does not apply, imo. Appliances were built more durable back in the day. There are plenty of older appliances working just fine today while some stuff under 5 years is already getting scrapped because it’s too expensive to fix and/or parts aren’t even available. It’s total nonsense
Your penultimate statement is an absolutely textbook example of survivorship bias.
https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2025/03/01/do_household_appliances_really_not_last_as_long_as_they_used_to_1093575.html
The average lifespan of a washer has declined a little but the frequency of use during that lifespan has increased measurably.
I’m seeing 20+year old machines taking the same work load as newer machines a fraction of their age and they’re still going just fine while some of the new ones are breaking for no reason outside shitty electronics and/or plastic garbage components. I guess it is survivorship bias. Whatever the case i still can’t take anyone seriously when they claim modern appliances are better than the older stuff. Reliability is a key feature of an appliance but also serviceability in the long term and neither of those are features of modern appliances (at least prole-grade appliances like i work on)
The appliances from 30 years ago that fell apart early aren’t here to tell their tale.
A shame because they’re still fixable all these years later while the new shit is going obsolete before your very eyes
You really are having a struggle with the concept of survivorship bias aren’t you?
Nope. You’re both correct and you are the one who fails to understand that not everything is an either-or situation.
Especially when both of your points are merely related and not in direct opposition. Old appliances were more generic and more robust, but only an idiot with survivorship bias would say all old appliances were bullet proof.
Yes