• Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    23 hours ago

    I’m glad that someone I’ve personally disliked for various reasons is finally having a lot of people see them for who they really are.

    Man this dude is a total nepobaby tool.

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      10 hours ago

      I came to PS through YouTube shorts and his streams were cut to ribbons and repatched into something resembling a zeitgeist-appealing view.

      Then I watched a couple of his long form videos and was like … eh. If anything it taught me more about the danger of using shorts as an onboard to any big vtuber. Much like movie trailers and their movies, they tend to overpromise and underdeliver.

      This became undeniably apparent when YouTube started shoving Jordan Petersen into my feed. Much like the thousand monkeys at their typewriters, you can take the words of anyone who talks at length almost daily on a subject and edit them into something that sounds reasonable and appealing.

      I already knew that JP was a right wing rhetoric Markov chain posing as an expert/pundit before YT started promoting him, but it really did cement the point.

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        9 hours ago

        Even Hitler out of context sounds good. Context is paramount. Never trust a good speaker with the extra time to edit himself in post with out the context of the original or their history.

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          7 hours ago

          Nowadays its also quite common to design speeches around short form videos, so that you can then edit as much as possible into short little segments that are optimised for short form content. The right wingers do it a lot and, at least in Germany, our leftist party realised that this is a strategy to not miss out on.

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          9 hours ago

          It’s often not the speaker doing the editing, there are thousands of channels built around creating and releasing these cast-a-wide-net shorts to subtly drive you towards their goal of obsessively watching right wing vtubers saying things that compel you to be a selfish narcissist.

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        10 hours ago

        Any male dominated channel that ever “gives advice” gets shunted into that pipeline by algo pretty consistently.

        I like stand up comedy and it’s a full time job keeping Rogan out of my suggestions.

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          9 hours ago

          Yeah, for real. YouTube is essentially placing infinite bets that it can drive you into the rabbit hole. Watched a short of Dillahunty give Peterson a verbal wedgy? You must like big words, so here’s more Peterson! Watched a short of Joey Swoll telling people to be polite, because it rolled on automatically? Here’s an Andrew Tate wannabe with shrivelled nuts to subtly criticise you about your dad bod.

          Obsession and radicalisation are one and the same to the algorithm, and both turn a targeted individual into a money printer. And fuck the consequences right? Because Google got theirs.

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      14 hours ago

      Omg… this comment… this comment right here 👆. This is what I needed to see because I relate so strongly to it. F’kn guy sucks! (By guy sucks, I mean coworker of my nightmares that leans on me like a cancer). But my god, I’m so happy for him.