Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region
Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.
Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.
Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.
I back ceding Donald Trump and Mar a Lago to Putin.
Only if we can send the building over to them. Maybe drop it right on top of Putin’s house.
Zelenskyy says NO. So does EU
Neither of them have the resources to continue the fight. This was always on America’s dime, because national security had been outsourced to private American businesses
I guess. Yeah. That’s why Trunp can call the shots. Which he appears to be doing. The EU is in a world of hurt given that Trump fluffs Putin.
European intervention is looking like the only option now. because America is a captured state. there are only bad options now. and Europe is more than a year behind reality,
they sat on their hands hoping Kamala would win, and that they’d be allowed to continue offshoring their own defense matters to America, she didnt
so they sat on their hands hoping Trump wouldn’t be who everyone thought he would be, He was exactly what everyone thought he’d be.
so they sat on their hands hoping he would change with time. He didn’t, he accelerated his agenda and threw kerosone on the world by Parroting Putin, advocating Bibi, and Bombing Iran.
So they sat on their hands hoping he’d have a change of heart. And he rolled out the red carpet for the most honored guest, VVP.
Trump is an Ally of the Russian Mafia, Article 5 is already useless in terms of America, America wont go to war with Russia even if a KAB landed in Berlin tonight. Europe ought to consider their choices ahead.
Option 1 > Stop Bleating at America, Stop insisting that America Negotiate on Ukraines behalf in a specific way, and show some fucking teeth, and prepare for war.
Option 2 > Keep bleating at America, and accept Russia controls your politics now, and probably watch as your alliance disintegrates in 3 years when a military conflict breaks out in Latvia and no one wants to go to war with Russia.
Go fuck yourself with an umbrella, cheeto
He was talking so tough before he saw his pimp, now he’s got his tail between his leg and he changed his tune
Trump is an imbecile. His grave is going to be a gender neutral bathroom for the rest of human history.
I would use that bathroom.
What the hell do you expect when two criminals meet. Fuck Vlad and and his orange sock puppet. The EU and Ukraine already know they will have to contain the Russians without the MAGAt fuckers.
I like how you call him a sock puppet. It’s a perfect analogy since his other use is to be Putin’s cum sock.
Ofc he does. Surprised he can even talk while gargling so much Russian balls…
who the fuck does he think he is to “negotiate” ceding someone else’s territory? (I’m not expecting any answers, the oompa loompa simply defies all logic)
something something, Alpha country, Beta country, Having cards, not having cards.
In all seriousness. these are people who have been parroting the same Kremlin lies that were confidentley asserting that Ukraine was already defeated like 1 month in and that everything after that was just prolonged suffering. These people are either Cowards, or Complicit. or both.
Doesn’t much matter, Zelensky has already said that’s a non-starter and their constitution forbids it anyway.
None of these demands are remotely acceptable to European leaders, either. Donbas is the part the headlines focus on, but the security guarantees sought by Russia are more egregious, given they would leave Ukraine totally defenseless.
Hey, they would let the US give security guarantees! Wait… I see what you’re saying…
Got a translated source? That’d be a really interesting constitution
In rejecting Mr. Trump’s proposal, Mr. Zelensky invoked Ukraine’s Constitution, which states that the Ukrainian territory is indivisible and inviolable. “The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the Constitution of Ukraine,” Mr. Zelensky said. “No one will step back from this, nor will anyone be able to.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/09/world/europe/zelensky-trump-ukraine-russia.html
Constitution doesn’t matter much when your invader is stronger than you
stronger than you
lmao, 3 years and the great superpower once thought equal to the United States can’t win the war they started. Give me a break.
USA was stronger than Vietnam and they still lost. USSR was stronger than Afghanistan and they still lost.
Clearly strength isn’t everything. Russia just needs to relearn this lesson they forgot - a determined foe can’t be beaten with brute strength alone.
lmao, 3 years and the great superpower once thought equal to the United States can’t win the war they started
Nobody in the right mind though russia nowhere near usa power
USA was stronger than Vietnam and they still lost. USSR was stronger than Afghanistan and they still lost
If russia was losing there wouldn’t be discussion about ukraine giving up some land but don’t get me wrong i don’t think they will control those lands forever. No occupation is eternal
The only ones talking about Ukraine giving up their land are Putin and his puppet
If russia was losing there wouldn’t be discussion about ukraine giving up some land
You might have some semblance of a point if Zelenskyy and Putin were the ones having this negotiation, but the only two people seriously discussing this are Trump (a moron and a traitor) and Putin (the guy currently losing).
Why does Russia want peace so badly if they could just win at any time? Believe me, dipshits like you have been flooding my DMs for 3 years saying Russia is only a few weeks away from crushing Ukraine and I love nothing more than setting up reminders to come back and taunt you when Ukraine is still here, still fighting, and not willing to take some shitty deal that Trump the Traitor and Putin decided on themselves behind closed doors.
So tell me, how much longer before Russia wins this conflict? Can’t wait for your next big prediction Nostradumbass. I’ll be sure to save it and come back to make fun of you just like all the others. Nothing else makes me feel more superior.
You are right about one thing, though. No occupation is eternal. The Russian invaders will be expelled from Ukraine eventually.
You are insulting me just because i disagree with you about who has the upper hand in the war although i support ukraine and i agree that morally ukraine shouldn’t give up it’s land just like palestinians also do? . You piece of trash. Learn some manner
You can disagree all you like, but facts are facts. Ukraine is not losing, Russia is not winning.
If you woke up tomorrow and started saying “I disagree, the sky is not blue it is red.” people would rightly treat you like a fucking moron. Same here. Fuck your feelings.
Only your feeling are hurt
If you woke up tomorrow and started saying “I disagree, the sky is not blue it is red.”
You are so dumb if you really think this comparison is accurate
Treaties dont matter when your enemy doesnt respect them,
Russias conditions for peace are surrender, and surrender is death. The Russian army has from day 1, displayed that their intention is ethnic cleansing.
All that matter is who have better stamnia and stronger position in the war. I am not talking morally but just how thr world works
Luckily then that in this case the invader looks weaker. Only thing they seem to be able to do is parrot ”but muh nukes” in all negotiations. If China would drop their support, Russia would be toast. It’s the only thing keeping this conflict alive.
Is china support to russian invasion that big compared to nato and the usa support to ukraine? I think ukraine will lose some territory temporarly. No military occupation is eternal
The crucial difference is that China does it covertly, and partly through its satellites like N-Korea. Western support is open, and frankly the right thing to do in the face of aggressive invasion.
Eternal is a difficult term, but in Russia’s case they never cede anything except in the face of absolute catastrophe, like the soviet collapse was. For instance, Finland has not gotten any of the territories taken from it back, and will not unless Russia happens to dissolve into its states. And those areas are mostly turned into wasteland by now which will be the fate on Donbas too if they get it.
Next Putin will claim Alaska used to be Russian, and should be handed back.
And trump would give it to him after some fake posturing.
Actually, Lenin invented the United States in the first place, so their entire country is historically part of Russia /s
There’s some nutjobs in the Duma who have already said that. Though this should be taken the same way as when some nutjob in the US House says something. Probably nothing will come of it, but occasionally, it does.
Honestly not even news, tbh.
It’s comically and frustratingly obvious that his “ideas” are simply “whatever the last guy he talked to said”
That’s the dementia. At this point he is increasingly acting senile.
Yup. If you had Trump’s ear for a few minutes, he is incredibly easy to manipulate.
Yup, upcoming summit with Zelenskyy and the EU, and his tone will change after that.
No, Trumps team will insist on going forward with the deal they arranged with Vlad. Europe (which includes Ukraine) will say fuck that, and team Trump will then use it as political ammo to justifiy more tarriffs and more energy into the Asia pivot. IE they will say they’re pulling out and leaving Russia to have its fun.
When trump met with Zelenskyy in the Vatican he changed his tune real quick. I guess we will see how it goes.
Every day, guillotines become more attractive.
He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.
Install troops in Ukraine and show Putin already god damn it. That makes putin mad? Good that will make EU more unified. And its not like putin is gonna drop nuclear bombs cause thats suicide :) So bring him to his knees.
