I thought data caps for home internet were a thing of the past…
I’ve somewhat recently moved back to a very rural area of the Midwest. Small town. No stop lights. Biggest businesses other than the bars are Casey’s, Subway, and Dollar General.
And we have one ISP (not counting DSL) — Mediacom. When we first signed up, I had to go with the second service tier. But not because of speeds, but so I could have a reasonable 1 TB/mo data cap.
Lucky me, they increased the cap to 1.5 TB. 🙄
I hope that in my lifetime I can see ISPs regulated as a public utility.
Home internet data caps WERE a thing of the past when Obama appointed Tom Wheeler as FCC chairman, who then pushed rulings to classify ISPs as a public utility and started enforcing net neutrality. Companies that didn’t play ball started getting fined until they fell in line. Being a former executive for a major ISP, he was very familiar with the anti-competitive practices and underhanded tricks those companies had been using for years; and he used those practices against them to finally make some pro-consumer progress for internet access in the US.
Then, Trump came in and put Ajit Pai in charge of the FCC (no joke, my phone kept auto correcting his name to Shit Pie). Anyways, Shit Pie tore down those rulings and undid all those years of progress as part of the Trump administration’s anti-Obama initiative. Even though it was proven time and again that what he did was directly against public opinion, and that ISPs were flooding the public commentary with bot posts(some even made by dead people); Shit Pie continued to meme about himself and drink from an obnoxiously large Reese’s coffee mug while doing so. At this point, every provider of internet services has added back data caps in the US, and they have continued to increase their prices to maintain that 99.9% profit margin. They’ve also locked down more areas to prevent municipal broadband services from forming, and they’re even pushing for legislation to prevent them from ever happening.
The current administration has done absolutely nothing. In fact, they’ve been so unremarkable, I have no idea who is in charge of the FCC, and I don’t feel like looking it up.
The Biden admin tried to nominate an amazing woman, Gigi Sohn, worked for the EFF. But try to guess who opposed her?
Ajit Pai used to be a lawyer for AT&T, just like the previous guy was an executive for the ISPs. However Ajit Pai was nominated by Obama originally. Trump made him head, but don’t get it twisted - there is a bipartisan concerted effort to fuck you. Tom Wheeler was just as bad as Pai - they were considering getting rid of net neutrality already in 2014 under him.
They basically just wait for the right moment to strike. If they fail they wait a few years and try again. They have a lot more patience persistence and attention than the public. They will always win.
In Switzerland you get unlimited 10 Gbit/s for 50 bucks.
I hate you, congrats!
In Canada we have to give our firstborn to a telecommunication monopoly for somewhat OK internet.
Somewhat OK internet on the infrastructure our taxes paid for and the government handed over to Bell and Rogers, but don’t worry, they’ll stop all the other evil corporations from coming in and giving us cheaper internet.
And for 80$/month you can get 25Gbps!
🔫 hand over the internet bill
what the hell
And /48 IPv6 subnet included! As it should be!
A /48 is quite overkill for a home customer. Do you have 65536 LANs at home? Here in Belgium, we get a /56.
They’re just preparing for one day when you have your own personal swarm of nano bots
Omg
Dude… The US is doing it wrong. SE Asia. 1Gbps symmetrical, unlimited, unrestricted. ~14US$.
Australia looks like an interesting case. Iknow that in some countries, ISPs have to provide service to both urban and rural customers at the same price, which means that urban customers actually subsidize people living in rural areas. In some other cases, the gouvernements help pay for this.
Isn’t there a project in Australia that the federal gouvernement is subsidizing the role-out of fibre?
I have no idea, but that idea didn’t work out all that well in the US. The gov provided funding for expansion to the countryside for all the major telecoms…and they just pocketed without actually implementing anything.
Idk but pricing in Australia is fucked. The fibre network isn’t that large to begin with afaik, and even if you do have fibre you have to pay an arm and a leg for good speeds.
E.g. I pay like $70 USD a month for 100/40.
Symmetric gigabit costs several hundred a month, they’re not intended for residential customers.
$40 for 2 Gbps unlimited in Singapore. Caps on home broadband are frankly nonsensical.
I’m paying $40 CAD/mo for 1.5 Gbps down and 940 Mbps up here in Canada. Unlimited bandwidth, of course.
In Thailand I’m getting 400Mbps upload and download with unlimited data.
It costs about 300฿/mo ≈ $8.7/mo
'Murica #1!!! (In high internet prices)
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But you also get paid less
Although I agree that people get paid less here, I highly doubt that it costs an ISP in the US 8x more to transfer data than an ISP in Thailand.
I’m not really trying to argue that Thai internet is cheap, it’s that internet elsewhere is exorbitantly expensive.
Yeah, the ISP cartels sucks. I’ve been stuck paying $170/mo for uncapped 1000/35mbps connection.
Thankfully, before the end of the year, a local ISP is moving into my area. They offer uncapped symmetrical gigabit, for $75/mo… I’ll be saving $95/mo for BETTER service.
The longstanding ISP cartels should seriously be punished for the abuse of their market positions and failure to appropriately use government funding they’ve been given.
1000/35mbps
That download/upload dichotomy should be illegal in and of itself!
Yeah that’s abysmal, but it’s a result of the fact that docsis has always been an asymmetrical standard in which upload speeds are lower than download. I recently moved house and my old ISP was fiber to prem, we had symmetrical gigabit. New house is cable ISP that only offers 1000/50… While docsis 3.0 supports up to 200mbps up. Bunch of greedy bastards.
Oh they appropriated it all right, straight into their yachts and mansions.
Same boat here… and then the “default cap” is nothing. Between work and family, we hit the data cap of 1.25TB within three weeks.
Any place I can find more info about the “end of the year” timeframe you mentioned? A new ISP is also rolling in my area, but their site has been vague on time.
The main street into our house currently has it available, but our actual address not yet… driving me a little crazy.
Hope the new one is available for you soon.
I’m reading all the comments and I’m shocked… In France, with uncapped access and 1Gbps down/600Mbps up (theorical) I pay 40€/mo (30€ every six month when I call to complain that it’s too expensive). And it’s definitely not the cheapest provider.
That’s insane !
1Gbps down/700Mbps up here, 35€/month (another french provider), no data caps - for 5 bucks/month more I could have 5Gbps down/1Gbps up, but… well, my home network is still using 1Gbps switches - but all the cabling was built with 10Gbps in mind.
Data caps are pure robbery. We run a non-profit ISP/hosting platform and a non-profit IXP with friends in West France, the only thing you pay (and the only thing end users should have to pay) is goddamn bandwidth.
Interesting that they give you more up than down. Are you on a server plan or something like that?
Edit: lol just noticed what community this is, server plan makes more sense now.
I messed up, that’s the opposite actually ^^
(30€ every six month when I call to complain that it’s too expensive)
Sounds like a Liberty Global owned telecom company… they love their annual price increases ugh, but they are usually the fastest option in most areas
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The point is to make money, do they charge extra to increase the data cap? If so, it’s all about money.
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lol uncapped 500mbps fiber (actual fiber directly to your house) connection is 10-12$/month in Ukraine
Looking at all you guys with your gigabit connections, meanwhile I’m in Aus and lucky to get 30 down and 15 up
Not eligible yet for the fttp upgrade? Hang in there mate.
I got upgraded from fttn to fttp at the start of this year.
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https://0xerr0r.github.io/blocky/v0.21/ This? I’ll have to give it a try later. Pihole has a cache also though, does this do something different?
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Very cool thank you!
Local DNS-based adblocker. I prefer blocky, but others prefer Pi-Hole. Blocky has a feature to pre-cache commonly used domains, so additional internet performance. :)
Blocky is written in Go, which I understand is an interpreted language program, versus a compiled language program. Please correct me on this if I’m wrong.
If I’m right, then what kind of performance issues if any do you see using Blocky? I asked this assuming that an interpreted program will run slower than a compiled one.
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To confirm, Go is a compiled language?
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Thanks.
Wish i had 15 up, im getting 40 down 3 up. They started putting fiber down my street but not active yet, cant wait to go to 1 gig
USAGE ALLOWANCE?!?!
Laughs in Scandinavian
I have luckily never heard about data caps in Scandinavia except for mobile broadband.
Do they even exist at all, here?
I had a friend years ago that had a cap, but that was literally the only one I’ve heard of in my life here (Sweden)
Lol Germany here checking in 500/50 for 29.99
What?! That’s so cheap! Mine is 1000/50 (cable) for €60. Also Germany.
Confused American here, I thought third-world countries all had gigabit for $20/mo!
The fuck that’s so bad. I pay 45€/m for Vodafone, unlimited with 400Mbps. For mobile I also have unlimited plans with about 100€/m (for both me and my wife, with a premium smartphone). Change your provider man.
Are you high? S/he’s paying 15 euro less than you each month with slightly worse upload speed than you but also with faster download speed
I think he just hit the wrong reply button. Probably meant to reply to helmet91’s comment.
I pay around 20$ for 1000/500 uncapped, driven by the fact that there is healthy competition.
I had uncapped 500/50Mbps for €10 but now I moved to a village and I’m stuck with 100/10Mbps for €20 :(
I’ve got 1000/1000 fiber for €32, which I think is a pretty good deal in the Netherlands at the moment. I will go back to 100/100 for probably a similar amount after my contract is up as 1000/1000 is simply overkill for our use case. But who knows, maybe I’ll find another deal.
I’ve got 1000/1000 fiber for €32
you lucky bastards. higher qol and better broadband? hope your nipples freeze off, I’m envious.
Jokes on you. I don’t have nipples.
You’re lucky, I’m on 25/2Mbps and I pay £32 per month for the privilege.
I’m slightly baffled by all this. I’m scheduled to get my line upgraded to be able to handle 100mbps in 2025 and I’m currently able to get 48mbps which costs me about USD55/mo. I only got the upgrade from 8mbps in 2019 (stupid conservative govt). While I’m looking forward to the better connection, I don’t really find a problem with 50 at the moment. I work from home, I stream multiple instances of media, I torrent things sometimes. I think I’m on an cap of 1tb but tbh I’d have to check if that’s what it still is, I haven’t looked for a long time.
Lmao rural USA checking in, 20Mbps down for $200 a month. Kill me
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Well, the internet companies have successfully bribed politicians to avoid competition. This is just the normal result of everyday corruption.
Capitalism working as intended
Hey! I’ll have you know that Comcast and Time Warner are in the fiercest of competitions. They are practically bankrupting themselves while slashing each other’s throats. /s
Yea while we were in alaska we were capped. we were in fairbanks as well, which isn’t that rural. I lived in the high desert of california. drive 20 min from hesperia to phelan and you could probably get meth easier than consistent internet.
Time to establish IP over Meth Dealers then
Gotta love the GCI monopoly in Alaska. So glad I left that god forbidden State
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