When all the ones who are disgusted leave, you are left with only those who are disgusting. Not my words but somehow they apply again.

We are, despite centuries upon centuries of evolution, civilization, philisophy and education, deeply tribal creatures. While right wing propaganda most blatantly and directly calls upon our tribalism to dehumanize the “other” of the day, it is a trait we all share. Frankly when you look at how far some people take the denial of easily verifiable reality to stick to a feeble story and prop up the most deplorable of men, it’s easy to feel they are terminally lost and can no longer be part of any kind of moral and positive society. But that way we just end up dehumanizing them as much as they do to us.

Even as they have been brainwashed and molded to be perpetually scared and angry and to reject other feelings, they are people nontheless who need to be treated fairly.

To some extent I understand that murderer, misguided as he is. It would, for me be a better world if I could remove people I see as harmful to the world from existence. If someone were to remove a bunch of republican supporting billionaires, the whole of that parties leadership and the heritage foundation from the world I would not be angry at all. Not because I hate them. I don’t really, I don’t know them personally. But because they are so harmful to all of us.

We may say things like “eat the rich” but we don’t really do that, at most we affectionately nibble a bit, without breaking skin. I’m too well aware that to people who live in actual abject povery, my middle class ass could be part of the group of rich folk on the menu. Once we start killing the people we see as harmful, where do we stop. Where do we draw the line? Who makes the grade? We could easily end up in a situation where, like in post revolutionary China or France anyone could be accused and convicted for not being revolutionary enough. Accused by an angry neighbor, a jealous lover or your own kids.

So while I understand the feelings that lead to the actions, I cannot condone murder, nor do I take such action myself, besides, I have a job to do, kids to care for, bills to pay etc, etc, etc.

And no, I have no solution for any of this, it’s way too complex to solve with rigid ideology or easy to shout slogans.

That’s the onion though.

Just wanted to say, in the face of downvotes and angry replied, that I think you are absolutely right.

I fully expect the GOP to give make him a talk show host on Fox.

Headline translated: in the US state of Minnesota, police are on the hunt for the 57 year old shooter who shot 2 Democratic politicians and their spouse in their homes. Two victims have died. The attacs seem politically motivated. A list of names of politicians was found in the suspects car.

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2025/06/14/twee-democratische-politici-doodgeschoten-in-amerikaanse-staat-m/

This is from a national news site. I haven’t seen their television news of today yet but usually their television news and the site story are identical.

I’m not saying the news reporting here is not colored a bit, but it tends to be non sensationalist so there is that.

I don’t think he hates Illinois Nazi’s though.

A blues brother?

It’s on the news in Belgium.

Yes? Might also have been all the other investigations running against him that doge accidentally snuffed out.

Musk himself said that if Harris won he was going to be in very big trouble. It’s safe to say he supported Trump because that was not the law and order candidate.

Luckily, there is a lot of vaccine research and production outside of the US so once you pay the tariffs you will have vaccines despite your government, as long as you don’t get a disease endemic to the US.

What if they got into a monetary union with Canada and linked Calidollar with the Canadollar with the same value and entirely interchangeable the way the Belgian and Luxemburg franc used to work?

No, the private funding of politicians, which nowhere in the world happens as thoroughly or blatantly as in the US, is another issue to solve. It’s companies pushing for privatization of services that they sabotage first to show that the government doesn’t do well with them. It’s like the postal service headed by that Trump appointee that was a big cheese in a transport firma. I forgot his name.

You think the state of NASA isn’t caused by privately funded politicians?

The Sikh do yes, I don’t trust the rest of the religious “good works” one bit. i read your argument here now and then but I don’t believe it.

Doesn’t it feel like he is orchestrating the whole thing to give the IDF excuses to shoot people?

Israel practically organized Hamas to have an opponent easily disliked by western nations. They funded and molded it to the exclusion of more secular and leftist organisations like PLO. Hamas is not a problem for Israel, it’s a tool to allow them unlimited brutality on the Palestinian population. I know people on lemmy don’t want to hear this but when you look at what happened since the days when people like Rabin and Arafat were making headway in peaceful solutions that might have ultimately led to freedom, safety and dignity for everyone in the region.

The agreements they made werent perfect, they were stepping stones in the way to a better situation, and they were what could be eeked out in the existing situation. Of course Zionist extremists could not live with that. Never forget who killed Rabin.

They both do, it’s what narcism does.

If there was one funny thing Trump could do was weaponize the doj against Musk and get his companies seized in civil forfeiture. It certainly would be a win for the US, so he is not going to.

Ford might have been a bastard, at least he was a smart bastard who didn’t let the idea that someone might benefit from something that also benefitted him stop him. Which is a major problem with the current batch. And I know he was a fascist. He was bad, somehow people strive to be worse.