Summary

The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Indiana’s law banning puberty blockers and hormones for transgender minors, aligning with similar laws in 26 GOP-led states.

Plaintiffs argued the law discriminates based on sex and interferes with parental rights to direct medical treatment for their children, but the 2-1 ruling dismissed these claims.

The court stated the law applies equally to all minors and parents don’t have unrestricted rights to medical treatments.

This decision comes as the Supreme Court prepares to review a similar Tennessee case, potentially setting a nationwide precedent.

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    3 hours ago

    I try not to get to political because there are two sides to every story especially regarding gender since it inherently should not be a political issue at all but…

    Good, we should not have any kind of gender reassignment treatments or surgery’s until the brain is %100 developed and the person can be %100 sure it is there life long decision and understand all the consequences. You know like with any contract, major life decision or medical decision.

    This has the potential to alter developing minds and there politically biased parents do not have the ability to make a proper medical decision. Half the time they don’t have the ability to make proper life saving choices let alone elective surgeries/treatments.

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      I was a transgender child. Going through forced puberty led me to attempt suicide at 14 15 and 18. Parts of my body are covered in self-harm scars due in large part to the utter repulsion I felt at the effects of testosterone on my body. I became an alcoholic at 16, and an oxycontin addict by the time I was 20. The day my voice cracked was one of the worst days of my entire life. For reference I started counseling when I was 13. I was receiving therapy throughout all of this.

      I am extremely lucky to be alive. I have had to spend tens of thousands of dollars undoing the harm testosterone did to me and some things I can never fully undo. I could have avoided all of this if I had had access to puberty blockers. If I had been offered puberty blockers, I would have taken them without a thought, and I categorically would not have regretted them. I knew I wanted to be a girl when I was 4. I knew that I didn’t want to go through testosterone puberty when I was in grade 4, and they taught us what that was.

      Is forcing us to go through what I went through humane? When a real treatment exists right there? When studies show a less than 1% rate of regret for gender affirmative care for minors? Do you realize you are forcing children to go through what I went through? Do you realize not every child will survive? Do you realize you’re supporting causes that kill children? For no fucking reason? Because you don’t fucking understand what we go through and have no fucking interest in listening to us? How about asking trans kids what they fucking need? How about asking trans adults what being a trans child was like for them? No you have no fucking interest in any of that.

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      You know damn well this isn’t about surgery. It’s about hormones, and it says so right there in the summary. You didn’t even have to click the link. Nobody is doing breast implants on trans minors (only on cis minors, which is perfectly fine for some reason).

      Forcing a trans kid to go through the wrong puberty even though they know they are trans is extremely traumatic. It’s life ruining. It alters the voice, the shape of the torso, the shape of the face, and facial and body hair in ways that either can’t be fixed at all, or can only be fixed with expensive surgeries later on.

      And if you want people to be absolutely sure about their status before going on hormone replacement therapy, then that is exactly what puberty blockers are for. Leuprorelin prevents puberty so that the kid can figure themself out for a year or two, and then make sure they go through the correct puberty. Even if they decide not to be transgender in the end, they can just go off leuprorelin and start puberty.

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        Quite frankly IDGAF, it is going to alter the kids minds and body and I trust absolutely nobody on this planet to make that decision without bias and political interference and influence. And the amount of people who legitimately need these hormones is far far less than the people who will be given politically motivated or poorly informed or poorly thought out, you are risking an epidemic of the exact thing you are trying to avoid. This is unethical and should not be politicized.

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          You’re against things that alter kids minds and bodies? Like puberty? Well luckily there’s a way to stop that! Puberty blockers, which have been safely used for decades and are considered a medical necessity by WPATH as well as many other health organizations!

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          Why are we debating this at all, shouldn’t it be the decision of the parents? You don’t agree, that’s fine, you can tell your kids no. If someone else looks at the evidence and believes it’s true, and believes this is hugely beneficial to their kid, why should the government have a say in their kid’s medical treatment?

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            Parents are the absolute worst people to make decisions of their children’s medical decisions they are just the default, in a perfect world we would have a body of politically isolated experts determining medical decisions for children. But we don’t live in that world so until we do we should have as few elective medical treatment’s on children as possible.

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      3 hours ago

      “I’m not going to get political but”

      “Gets political”

      “Spouts off right wing talking points”

      “Demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the transition process”

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        I did not say I am not going to. the point of that statement is to point out how abnormal it is for me to weigh in on a political issue and how egregious I believe this to be, and I absolutely do not care if it is right left up or down, this should not be politicized, it is human experimentation.

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          Hi, I’m a trans woman and I just wanna say that the name you chose for yourself suits you really well well!

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            1 hour ago

            K. That is a character assassination. Not a necessary argument for people with valid arguments.

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              Hey, I just like how you picked out your name. It’s a compliment. Why do you gotta be so toxic about yourself? Is it the brain full of hatred? I bet it’s the brain full of hatred.

              Best of luck with *gestures at everything*.

              Consider possibly not making trans peoples’ lives harder, yeah? Don’t contribute to that.

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                And that is picking a fight also not a valid argument.

                As for making trans lives worse quite frankly your life is less important than children. You wanted a fight right?

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                  Hey, chum, I’m just trying to be uplifting, you wanna come at me with fights, I’m trying to give you a compliment. No wonder you’re not getting laid if you try to fight every woman who says something nice about you.

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                    And I don’t even know the point of that one is. Except to call me a virgin? Are you saying that is a bad thing? Not very politically correct.

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      Going through the wrong puberty is also a life long decision with major consequences. Hope that helps!

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        Ok, and you can trust politicians parents and children to choose the right gender? We have the same choice no matter if we ban or allow this, the only differences is:

        1. Politically motivated people can weigh in.
        2. the amount of people suffering right now is overwhelmingly lower than the people who have the potential to be misgendered and given the wrong drugs.