It is a guillotine with a reddit head in it and the name spez written on it. Just depicting a guillotine is not a death threats but depicting a person in it that exist in the real world is absolutely a death threats against that person. If that is not a death threat there is no such thing as a death threats on the internet and moderation is dead.
A death threat is something like saying “I’m gonna murder spez”. It expresses an intention. An illustration suggesting that someone could be killed does not express any intention to actually kill someone. Furthermore the image could be interpreted in other ways, like saying the user account “spez” should be eliminated, or that that spez is the kind of person who would have been killed had he been around in the French revolutionary period. No reasonable person could believe the people posting those pixels are actually making plans to cut off Steve Huffman’s head with a guillotine.
I’m much more concerned about rhetoric that, for example, equates LGBT+ people with groomers, because that shit demonstrably does get people killed, and I’ve been told numerous times that rhetoric like that doesn’t violate any rules. If moderation is dead, that’s what killed it.
I mean, fuck that place, but this particular instance of censorship seems acceptable and even good. Some schizo dude on the interweebs could think this is God speaking to him or something. Don’t promote violence online.
I hear you, but all these rich rat bastards need to be reminded that they only have what they have because the masses allow it. I hope I don’t see it in my lifetime, but we are rapidly approaching a point where heads are going to roll.
I do believe heads need to roll at this point, but not specifically Spez. Like what he’s doing is minimal and not deserving of death or incitement of violence against him.
The same people who drew that probably use Reddit every day. If you really want to make a point don’t do shit like that, just stop using Reddit.
Look at the masses of Germans coordinated to say “fuck Spez”… What percentage of them do you think still use Reddit?
I’m a german and made an account with a throaway email so i could help the german artworks because i really like the community around the german r/place engagement. I’m not planning on using that account after place is done so I also used a randomly generated password which i didn’t save. I just want the fun and community of last years e/place again.
I actually went back to Reddit. Even as a left-wing follower, I couldn’t take the heavy bias of the community. The echo chamber is just too loud. They are convinced communism is flawless, and whenever it becomes flawed, it is the right’s fault. I can’t deal with absolutes, I’d rather be dead than radicalized by an ideology.
For some reason Lemmy won’t let me remove my account so I just login once a day to see if it is already gone.
and the admins nuked it.
I’m never going back to that place
Of course they did. It was a death threats against an individual. The protestors needs to drop spez as a scapegoat and pick a target that is smarter.
I don’t think that’s a death threat at all. Guillotines are a metaphor for the working class forcibly taking power away from the ruling elite.
It is a guillotine with a reddit head in it and the name spez written on it. Just depicting a guillotine is not a death threats but depicting a person in it that exist in the real world is absolutely a death threats against that person. If that is not a death threat there is no such thing as a death threats on the internet and moderation is dead.
A death threat is something like saying “I’m gonna murder spez”. It expresses an intention. An illustration suggesting that someone could be killed does not express any intention to actually kill someone. Furthermore the image could be interpreted in other ways, like saying the user account “spez” should be eliminated, or that that spez is the kind of person who would have been killed had he been around in the French revolutionary period. No reasonable person could believe the people posting those pixels are actually making plans to cut off Steve Huffman’s head with a guillotine.
I’m much more concerned about rhetoric that, for example, equates LGBT+ people with groomers, because that shit demonstrably does get people killed, and I’ve been told numerous times that rhetoric like that doesn’t violate any rules. If moderation is dead, that’s what killed it.
I agree, but the world is provably full of many unreasonable people.
Well, fuck em, and fuck spez. People can be unreasonable as they see fit, but I still maintain: Off with his 'ead! Metaphorically, of course
I mean, fuck that place, but this particular instance of censorship seems acceptable and even good. Some schizo dude on the interweebs could think this is God speaking to him or something. Don’t promote violence online.
No. Stop. Don’t.
I hear you, but all these rich rat bastards need to be reminded that they only have what they have because the masses allow it. I hope I don’t see it in my lifetime, but we are rapidly approaching a point where heads are going to roll.
I do believe heads need to roll at this point, but not specifically Spez. Like what he’s doing is minimal and not deserving of death or incitement of violence against him.
The same people who drew that probably use Reddit every day. If you really want to make a point don’t do shit like that, just stop using Reddit.
Look at the masses of Germans coordinated to say “fuck Spez”… What percentage of them do you think still use Reddit?
I’m a german and made an account with a throaway email so i could help the german artworks because i really like the community around the german r/place engagement. I’m not planning on using that account after place is done so I also used a randomly generated password which i didn’t save. I just want the fun and community of last years e/place again.
I actually went back to Reddit. Even as a left-wing follower, I couldn’t take the heavy bias of the community. The echo chamber is just too loud. They are convinced communism is flawless, and whenever it becomes flawed, it is the right’s fault. I can’t deal with absolutes, I’d rather be dead than radicalized by an ideology.
For some reason Lemmy won’t let me remove my account so I just login once a day to see if it is already gone.