Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new “king”

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it’s an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

  • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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    24 hours ago

    this means supporting an ad-driven business model

    Not really, or rather it’s not me doing it. Free tier does not really incentivize data collection, nowadays even the business where you are paying still collect and sell information about you and you can’t trust they are not doing so (or turn heel behind your back) without high level access to their infrastructure.

    I use free tier services; that signals that if you want to get my money, you have to do lots more than simply have a mouth to run. Some of those services have managed to prove their worth to my satisfaction, and deserved my payment, such as SDF which is where I have an account on, but even then I avoid subs and prefer one-time payments instead. But they are a minority (trust is not to be handed over freely) and Proton just squandered any chance of ever making the list.

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      21 hours ago

      How do you think a company should pay for your free tear service? If you give your marginal market signal that you are not available to pay for services, companies will use business models that don’t rely on that.

      Also it’s self-absolution to say that even companies you pay snoop on you. There are many serious companies that offer great services for a price and respect your privacy, because it’s their interest to do so. Proton, kagi but even Garmin for example.

      even then I avoid subs and prefer one-time payments instead

      I understand, but this simply doesn’t make sense for services that have running costs forever. A pay-as-you-go model or subscription makes more sense here.

      In general

      that signals that if you want to get my money, you have to do lots more than simply have a mouth to run

      It doesn’t. It only signals you are not available to pay their current price for that service. For most companies the only option is to get the money from someone else, for example selling your data.

      As a user who cares about privacy, we should incentivise healthy business models that allow us to pay with out money and not with our data. Stopping to do this in principle (“I avoid paying for a service if I can”) because the CEO expresses an opinion you disagree with seems just fishing for a justification. Of course your money are yours and you do what you want, but don’t be surprised when there are no good privacy respecting services to choose from.