• Kbibble@lemm.ee
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    5 days ago

    This article feels super rage bait-y to be honest. Like my first reaction at the title is of course, being like “thats fucked up” but as im reading it, it feels like this article was written in a manipulative way. There’s no sources at all, can’t find any using English google, decided to literally figure out how to search Dutch google in Dutch just to find something more reputable and there’s only this one site, which has 2 articles, the only 2 links in either is one article pointing to the other, and another link to what is clearly (from the add/article layout) a Belgium tabloid of some kind.

    Like nothing about the people involved or the situation, but this website is some shit, and so is the other one covering this. They may be on the right side of this story but this website itself feels incredibly un-credible, and I wouldn’t think to assume Belgium has some sort of news media problem where like, the gossip tabloids are the last bastions fighting for bodily autonomy and consent, where it would make sense that there is no other source.

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      5 days ago

      Thanks. That’s the kind of comments Reddit was great for a long time ago. Now it’s just immediate jump to outrage without anyone reading the article or doing any research when in doubt. And you even posted your conclusion. That’s just very very helpful

      • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nl
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        Except the comment is absolute horseshit. Vrt is the public broadcasting and news service and absolutely not a tabloid, furthermore this story is well documented and has been all over Belgian news for a week so it’s absolutely uncalled for to call the veracity of this story into question.

        If you want a source, here is a direct link to the verdict: https://rechtbanken-tribunaux.be/sites/default/files/media/reatpi/leuven/files/correctioneel-vonnis-leuven-1-april-2025.pdf

        Feel free to cross reference with the article and point out inaccuracies. As far as I can tell, the article is factual but perhaps a bit short on details and context. Nevertheless, this story has been covered extensively and much more in depth in Dutch on the same website. In fact, I retrieved the link to the verdict from an article on vrt.be.

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          bit short on details and context

          That is the litteral definition of rage bait. Leaving out details and context to just tell people what they should feel. It doesen’t matter if it’s on a subject matter I would otherwise be in support of or not. It’s fucked up.

          If you have a good point to make, you can make it proper. Doing it with rage bait is a fucked up way to profit from a tragedy while undermining real progress on solving the underlying problem by fucking with people’s trust. This is performative bullshit that grand standers do to make a buck off something, while causing more harm in the long term.

          And I did read the PDF you linked after translating it, and that only verified how rage baity that article was written (at least their English version in the op link). Here it is in English for anyone else who wants to see: https://imgur.com/a/CeM1VDi

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          I also didn’t call the veracity of the fucking story into question. What the actual fuck is your problem? Do you need to lash out on people for not automatically knowing the same shit you know? I appreciate the fucking verdict link, which was what I was trying to find in the first place, but you didn’t need to be a dick about it.

          I was annoyed because that article on it’s own basically says “take this as we tell it to you or go fuck yourself” with the way it’s presenting the info. It’s about fucking delivery. Thanks for bringing the shitty part of Reddit with you, I came here to avoid, by completely missing the point of what I was saying just to fabricate yourself a target to take your shitty day out on.

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          5 hours ago

          Jesus quit straw-manning, I didn’t say Vrt was a tabloid, I said the only site they refrenced, and only in the dutch version of the artcile, was the tabloid, not Vrt.

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      vrt.be is a very reputable site and not a tabloid. It belongs to the Flemish public broadcasting service, and they mostly write articles in Dutch. They do have an English section as well, though obviously it’s not as thorough as their Dutch site. After all, we are a Dutch speaking region.

      I can assure you that this case is very real, and has been all over the Belgian media the past week. Just google “verkrachter leuven”, and you’ll literally find hundreds of news articles about this case.

      decided to literally figure out how to search Dutch google in Dutch just to find something more reputable

      Looks like you didn’t do a very good job then.

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        I appreciate the info but it would be a lot easier for them to demonstrate their legitimacy by using reference links that point somewhere besides their own internal articles, as opposed to the burden being on me to familiarize myself with a language I don’t know and entire nations culture/media landscape on a dime, in order to do that job for them.

        They could be less lazy if they are reputable.

        Edit: PS the one site they linked to (on the dutch version of the article, not the English one) was the one I said was a tabloid. It very clearly is a tabloid and it basically has the exact same formatting and color scheme as The Sun.