cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2999441

I’m not plugged into all the hype around lk99, but this person seems to be a nice balance of hype, technical background and eagerness to not be wrong about things.

They seem to make a good and simple case for why the superconductor possibility is slipping away (as far as mostly internet hype based replication attempts go)

  • FaceDeer@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    One of the videos turned out to be a fraud. That does not invalidate any of the others. It’s like how lots of people immediately assumed LK-99 was a fraud because Ranga Dias’ high-pressure room-temperature superconductor was in the process of being retracted due to apparent data manipulation - they’re completely unconnected things.

    If 99 labs fail to reproduce LK-99’s superconductivity, release fraudulent videos and data, and so forth, but one lab is able to perfectly reproduce it and show that it works, that lab wins and LK-99 really is a superconductor. Scientific reality is not subject to democracy.

    • Dr. Dabbles@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      Sadly, it seems to be victim of perpetual hype by people that think if 99 labs fail to reproduce a result, 1 lab faking a reproduction means a “win”.

      • FaceDeer@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        That’s not what’s happened. There have been some other promising results, and some ambiguous results, alongside that one fake.

        If LK-99 really is a superconductor then there’s nothing that the negative-nellies are ultimately going to be able to do about that. When trains are levitating around on superconductive support, when every corner clinic has an MRI machine stashed away in a back room, are they going to just continue confidently declaring it’s all fake? Sounds like a fun way to live. That’s not skepticism, that’s insanity.

        Preemptively declaring LK-99’s superconductivity to be impossible before it’s been thoroughly vetted is just getting a head start on that.

        • Dr. Dabbles@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          11 months ago

          So now that it’s officially debunked, can we all admit that the hype videos from the usual youtube suspects were just utter nonsense by people collecting ad revenue instead of informed parties sharing worthwhile information?

        • Dr. Dabbles@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          11 months ago

          Your very framing of your response shows your implicit bias and why it’s pointless to continue a conversation. Branding realists as “negative nellies” is childish and ignorant of history at best. Your speculation of the utility of such a breakthrough is narrow minded and alarmingly simplistic. You wouldn’t know what to do with an MRI in the first place.