• BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    I declare the use of the word “punish” to be hate speech.

    Sorry, the moment you say you agree with this idea, you’re starting down a road that goes nowhere good.

    Call me names. Call my family names. Use any language you want. I don’t care.

    The line is when you’re calling for a crime to be committed.

    “Hate speech” is a convenient tool to target whoever is in power wants to at the moment.

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      10 months ago

      Is calling Epstein island visitors pedos hate speech?

      Seriously, these NPCs give absolutely 0 thought to the negative things brain dead laws like this enable

      …is calling trump supporters Nazis hate speech? That law is gonna have quite a lot of targets if so

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        10 months ago

        Slippery slope fallacy. Hate crime laws have been on the books in America since 1968 and I’m not aware of them leading to the end of free speech in America.

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          10 months ago

          The US has hate crime laws. It does not have hate speech laws. A hate crime requires an existing crime. You can legally shout the n-word from the rooftops. If you beat someone while shouting the n-word, your assault is upgraded to a hate crime.

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        10 months ago

        You’re right, I haven’t given you enough time to move away down there at the bottom

        Also, to reiterate another posters point: hate crime laws and hate speech laws are very different things.

        The first one increases penalties for things already considered crimes, the second one criminalizes previously legal actions.

        You’d have to be pretty brain dead to use those two concepts interchangeably, or to justify each other (which they often are)

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          10 months ago

          The bill covers both hate speech and hate crimes. Which aspects of the bill do you take issue with? I personally don’t think it should be legal to incite violence against people of a protected class. I didn’t realize that was such a hot take.