• Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    and got co-opted by a bunch of psychopaths into the fucking terrible movement it is today.

    Interesting. So In this theory of yours about how movements work, who exactly owns and dictates the movements? The ‘gov’ment’? The neighbour you hate? A woman calling the cops on someone? celebrities? People with opinions and jobs? A person with a magaphone/picket sign? Someone posting online?

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      5 months ago

      What a weird question. No one specifically owns and dictates the feminist movement, and op didn’t imply that there was. The answer you’re demanding is at the core of cultural movements evolve, which is an incredibly complicated topic and I think it’s kind of shitty to ask this pose this question like some obvious truth they’re missing or something.

      Modern feminist culture is incredibly poisonous, because its values were gradually eroded from bad actors. The people who dictate movements are simply the more passionate and convincing people that choose to try to. If a movement happens to have pretty vague ideas about its goals, it’s actually very easy to undermine its greater purpose to more nefarious specific goals. Or rather, it’s hard to keep from happening, because often the more selfish and destructive people are the ones who seem most passionate.

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        5 months ago

        Modern feminist culture is incredibly poisonous

        What authors or activists do you think represents modern feminism and what makes upu think they are poisonous?

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        You’re going to get that anywhere and could go off with the same argument that everything is poisoned. To hate it you’re supporting it’s a movement is both a sum and to help serve individual requirements. Claiming bad actors is just a part of it. Helping others is another. You will get that in all movements. To define it so you can have some batting practice is reductive.

        You’d spend your energy more wisely being additive with issues that need to get addressed. And focus on that.