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    Great for the fediverse but also weird reason to jump ship. All the other bullshit was fine, but “whoa they changed the logo now I’m out”?

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      A lot of people stay because of lingering attachment to the platform. As weird as it is, changing the branding subconsciously tells the human brain “This is a new platform” and that makes switching mentally easier.

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        You’ve been considering leaving Twitter for a while, and suddenly one morning the bird has flown and Twitter has left you instead.

        I think it’s also a clear signal that things are really never going to return to normal, it’s only getting worse from here. Which is easy those of us on the outside to observe, but maybe slightly harder from the inside when you still have most of the community still intact and posting.

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          I think some of us also had hopes that the new CEO would put a leash on Musk and steer Twitter into calmer waters again, but this was just proof that Musk is still doing wtf he wants and the CEO is just there for show. So people have now abandoned their last bit of hope and therefore abandoned T…I mean X as well.

          While I haven’t been an active user in a longer time, I’ve still been a very active lurker until Musk took over. By now, I’ve only checked Twitter every now and then when bored, to see what happened (as I mostly used Twitter as some kind of news feeds for stuff I couldn’t easily follow in any other way). But today I started migrating off completely - going through my follow list one by one and finding ways to follow those things (like local police, local town, local zoo, etc.) in other ways.

          For some that means slower news, or only the most important news - which kinda sucks, as e.g. local police info were good to have in real time during major events or when there was some protest going on. For some this even means mailing lists, ugh.

          And a few I couldn’t replace at all, so I’ll miss out on those news. Sucks, but hopefully those people/entities will provide their news feed through some better means sometime now.

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        I think it’s spot on. It’s people who were already going through the stages of grief, were kinda stuck in “bargaining” (like: “nah, Twitter is not really dead, it’ll come back”), and the symbolism there about Twitter really being gone-gone fast-tracked them to depression/acceptance.

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          The stages of grief don’t have to go in that order. People can be angry at Twitter and then jump to acceptance that its never going back. No fast tracking needed.

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          • Denial: “There is no way Elon would do that to Twitter.”
          • Anger: “This is stupid. Why would Elon do this to Twitter? He’s making things so much worse!”
          • Bargaining: “Maybe if I hold out he’ll revert the changes. Maybe Elon has some good left in his heart.”
          • Depression: “Why do stupid things like this happen to me?”
          • Acceptance: “Looks like Twitter’s dead in the water, we should move on.”
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      Because tweeting and being on Twitter is culturally relevant. Twxing and being on =…,/‘’‘’°°X°°“”/,…= is sad and cringe.

      People run away from things which are sad and cringe.

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      Yeah it makes no sense. I think the media is just out to trash Elon at every opportunity for any miniscule thing. He is somewhat of an outcast of the billionaires club in that he dies not appear to want to enslave humanity and deny the poors of their rights.

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        He doesn’t need to enslave humanity, just his Mars colony. As far as money over rights are concerned, his ‘free speech absolutist digital town square’ sure does give a lot more privileges for those willing to pay.

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        Musk has openly stated his support for the Republicans and for right wing causes countless times during his twitter shitposting period. If anything he has more openly voiced support of enslavement of humanity and the denial of the rights of poors than most of his billionaire colleagues, who are mostly all too smart to voice those ideas anywhere in public.

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        What are you on about? Every opportunity to trash him??? He can easily change his behaviour, he’s a trash person so he doesn’t. He absolutely wants to deny the poor their rights, look at how he treats the workers of twitter and how he spoke of those he fired. I truly don’t know how you can be this blind unless it’s willful. Get real

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          Twitter shrunk its staff by 3700, many of whom left of their own volition. Examples of some companies that cut more jobs then Twitter that nobody seemed to givr a damn about: Amazon 27k Meta 21k Accenture 19k Alphabet 12k Microsoft 10k Salesforce 8k Disney 7k Dell 6.6k

          I guess the people working at those companies just don’t matter huh?

          I don’t see any other billionaires fighting for basic human rights like free speech other than Elon. He doesn’t have a perfect track record on that count but it is better than the flat 0 of the rest of that clique.

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            You should really learn to separate claims with actions. Musk likes to claim he fights for free speech (well he used to, for some reason he hasn’t really talked much about it lately), but he has not only done nothing in favour of them but actually opposed it during his ownership of twitter.

            Also, I don’t know what kinda gotcha you think you have with those layoff numbers. It is as if you think that people here just love all those other corporations and only hate Musk, when that is the opposite of the truth.

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        Yeah, I mean, who hasn’t wanted to experiment with putting microchips into baboon skulls, or called someone a pedophile just because they hurt your feelings, or treats their workers like absolute trash? He’s just a regular guy doing regular things and the media is using him as their whipping boy.

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        Wait, what? Have you ever heard of longtermism? “Your stupid peasants’ suffering today matters little if we can take humanity to spaceTM. Don’t hold back progress.” If this is not enslaving humanity and shitting on the poor, I don’t know what is.

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            No, you’re sealioning, this is a waste of time :/ he’s at least as scummy as any other billionaire, like Zucky, Bezos, Gates, Thiel and all the other ones nobody hears about.

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              Why do you think the media goes so hard after Elon and we don’t hear much or anything at all about the others? Why is there a rabid cult of anti muskers that try to denigrate him at every opportunity? What is their agenda? When someone is singled out it should make you reflect on the reason why. He is hardly the worst billionaire around yet he gets all the flak.

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                Why do you think the media goes so hard after Elon and we don’t hear much or anything at all about the others?

                Because the others stay out of the spotlight. Musk deliberately shitposts and wants to be seen, so the media (and everyone else) sees him and reacts to that.

                But if you take your time to actually acquaint yourself with matters, you will notice that the media and everyone else are also very busy criticising other corporations and other billionaires. It is just that Musk being the narcissist that he is, very much like Trump, deliberately create stories on a daily basis through his poor judgement and constant craving for exposure.

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    people also left AOL once they realized tf’n browser works without a monthly sub. wrote WordPress after geocities sucked so bad. tech baby boomers? so 2k

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    It amazes me how badly these billionares are at running businesses.

    Like im an engineer and Not in my wildest dreams could I have destoyed a company like Twitter faster than musk.

    Like Did he do it on purpose?

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      I still think if you look at his investors it spells out leaders who want Twitter not to be viable as a platform for coordinating democratic efforts. So yes, he did it deliberately.

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      Like Did he do it on purpose?

      I think this gives him credit where it isn’t due 😂

      Personally, I think he’s just a magic blend of incompetent, arrogant, and in over his head. Large companies are slow moving for a reason and we’re seeing why in real time.

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      It HAS to be on purpose. Nobody can get to billionaire levels of wealth and be completely inept, right? RIGHT?

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        Begin rich makes one feel infallible. Thinking one’s self to be infallible leads to these kinds of decisions.

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        Unfortunately, once you get enough money the system is designed to keep you wealthy no matter how much you fuck up.

        Like, Trump has had multiple failed companies including casinos thay failed because he had them competeing with each other.

        Yet while he’s probably not a billionaire he still has the status of “wealthy” and managed to fail into the most powerful position in government.

        Musk had more money, and therefore can fuck up way harder and still be fine. He could burn Twitter to the ground for all the effect it would have on him.

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      Like Did he do it on purpose?

      At this point, I’m gonna say yes. Yes, he did do it on purpose. Why? The conspiracy theorist in me says it’s to push people into Meta’s Threads, building it up even more before it federates, in an attempt to kill the Fediverse like Google did with XMPP, because the Fediverse is the fastest growing bastion of corporate-influence-free speech on the Internet.

      Or he’s just an idiot. 🤷‍♀️

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      Absolutely - though some people find it too bare bones. It’s designed to be a bit of an anti-Twitter, after all.

      Those looking for something more flashy might be interested in checking out, for example, Firefish. The Firefish site also includes a neat “Fediverse software comparison”, which lists popular federated services and some of the features they currently have. Personally I prefer the stripped down approach of Mastodon, but reasonable people might disagree. :)

      Oh, and there’s also elk.zone, an online user interface for Mastodon that behaves a lot like Twitter. Similar to those “old lemmy” sites (like old.lemmy.world) in a way, but as an online app similar to wefwef.app.

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    The other stuff didn’t bother people enough to leave, but rebranding? That’s the step too far. Anyway Mastodon usage has fluctuated a good amount over the last few months so I don’t think that’s a good metric for people fleeing Twitter, or should I say X (what a terrible name).

    Twitter’s value was in its branding as the case with any ubiquitous product. There was zero reason to change it other than to further damage the entity. Fine with me Elon, go ahead and kill it, one more failed corporate driven media site. We don’t need any of them.

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      Could be the straw that broke the camel’s back.

      I actually hate rebranding by itself too. I see a totally new name as just trying to escape their bad name, likely earned by their previous misdeeds.

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    Hopefully this means there are accounts on Mastodon actually worth interacting with. Like 99.9999% of posts on Mastodon are literally just about Mastodon, or stupid tech shit I don’t care about.

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      Use the hashtag and follow people you find interesting. Your feed will improve as you curate it to your liking. It’s on you. There is no algorithm feeding you.

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        Yes and no. For example, I work in pest control and mostly lurked twitter for pest control content, as a lot of experts in that field used twitter exclusively and never bothered with facebook, instagram, reddit, discord, or any other networking site.

        There is absolutely no pest control content from those experts on Mastodon at this time. Niche, I know, but its a concrete example about how not every base is covered on Mastodon (yet).

        Its silly to blame people for not flocking there when there is a demonstrable lack of content.

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    chronological forums are still the best form of online community :/

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      That’s not terribly surprising, given that both of those groups rely most heavily on network effects: the very point of such accounts requires being where their audience is, especially brands. Those kinds of accounts will move en masse only when most everyone else has already done so

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      They’re not going to go to mastodon, but there have already been a pretty big exodus to Threads. I have a feeling that’s going to be the thing - twitter is going to die slowly mostly in favor of Threads, meanwhile Mastodon and the fediverse will probably continue being a minor player for a while.