This is completely unrelated to anything I said. I have personally dedicated my life to working to solve this and other environmental issues so calling me a bystander is hilariously wrong. In fact, doomerism is a big reason many people don’t act which is what I’m arguing against. Feeling some optimism the future will help you take real action in your community instead of doom-scrolling. And as I said there is no scientific basis to believe that climate change will kill all of us.
Life finds a way is one of the top ten anti climate change propaganda myths. Life doesn’t always find a way. Sometimes life gets blasted in the face and goes through a mass extinction event. Saying you think our kids will find a way to adapt is taking the passive bystander approach.
No it isn’t. That’s a nonsensical statement that is at odds with both human nature and climate science. People need to believe that there is hope or they will not act.
So far, there are always survivors of the mass extinctions. No indication that this one will be different.
Because saying things like, “I trust our kids” is part of how climate denialism was sold to Boomers and Gen X. We tried the low pressure approach. It’s time to panic people.
But this is not and has never been part of climate denialism messaging. In fact, the type of false statements you have been making (e.g. 99% of people dying—there is absolutely no scientific basis for this idea) are increasingly amplified by denialists to convince everyone that it’s too late to do anything.
We found that hope and optimism did not undermine perceptions about serious of the threat or likelihood of action. In fact, hope was associated with stronger threat appraisal and indicators of action. These findings provide important support for proponents of hope and optimism and a counter to those who suggest that positive states undermine recognition of conservation challenges.
So the science supports neither the idea that our children are doomed nor that holding a realistic but hopeful view of the future will prevent people from acting. In fact it is the exact thing people need to empower them to act.
Congratulations. You just described the bystander effect. I’m excited to stand with the crowd waiting for someone else to do something as we all die.
This is completely unrelated to anything I said. I have personally dedicated my life to working to solve this and other environmental issues so calling me a bystander is hilariously wrong. In fact, doomerism is a big reason many people don’t act which is what I’m arguing against. Feeling some optimism the future will help you take real action in your community instead of doom-scrolling. And as I said there is no scientific basis to believe that climate change will kill all of us.
Life finds a way is one of the top ten anti climate change propaganda myths. Life doesn’t always find a way. Sometimes life gets blasted in the face and goes through a mass extinction event. Saying you think our kids will find a way to adapt is taking the passive bystander approach.
No it isn’t. That’s a nonsensical statement that is at odds with both human nature and climate science. People need to believe that there is hope or they will not act.
So far, there are always survivors of the mass extinctions. No indication that this one will be different.
I’m sure that’ll be very comforting for the 99% of humans that die in that case.
You know how we adapt? By changing now.
For sure dude. I don’t know why you think I’m saying otherwise.
Because saying things like, “I trust our kids” is part of how climate denialism was sold to Boomers and Gen X. We tried the low pressure approach. It’s time to panic people.
But this is not and has never been part of climate denialism messaging. In fact, the type of false statements you have been making (e.g. 99% of people dying—there is absolutely no scientific basis for this idea) are increasingly amplified by denialists to convince everyone that it’s too late to do anything.
Research on this topic supports that a hopeful outlook not only does not reduce climate action, it helps to encourage it by reducing a sense that actions won’t have any real effect: https://conbio.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/cobi.14020
So the science supports neither the idea that our children are doomed nor that holding a realistic but hopeful view of the future will prevent people from acting. In fact it is the exact thing people need to empower them to act.