This is in regard to Lemmy.world blocking piracy communities from other instances. This post is not about whether you agree with the decision. It’s about how the admins informed their users.

A week ago Lemmy.world announced their Discord server. This wasn’t very well received (about 25% downvotes, which is rather bad compared to other announcements). The comments on that post were turned off, presumably to avoid backlash.

Before that, announcements about the instance used to be posted to [email protected]. This time, the information was posted on the Discord server instead.

I don’t agree with this. Having to use a proprietary platform to participate in an open-source one goes against the very purpose for me, especially when the new solution isn’t really an improvement (as before the information about the platform was closer to it).

Edit: Corrected the announcements community name.

Update: Lemmy.world finally released an announcement and promised they would inform about similar actions and gather feedback in advance in future.

  • CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.orgEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    If I have an instance with 5 people and 1 of them starts spouting neo nazi shit, I can deal with it immediately. The village handles outliers with ease. I think the Fediverse will shine when we get rid of large instances and instead just focus on large communities. If I have a user on my instance acting a fool, I can correct them and/or ban them before we need to start defederating. And due to the nature of IP enforcement, once an object has been created that the copywrite holders could find objective, takedown enforcement becomes impossible when an object is more or less instantly shared across a hundred thousand instances.

    We’re all Sparticus on the Fediverse and we need to lean into its strengths to avoid becoming a heaven for shitheels making decisions for everyone else.

    • joe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Copyright (not “copywrite”, btw) law is batshit insane, but somehow people believe it to be even worse than it is.

      Your browser makes copies of every image you see, but this doesn’t violate copyright law because it’s automatic and necessary for the browser to function. Does that sound familiar?

      Also, for like 2 decades the standard action is just a takedown request that threatens legal action if ignored.

      And to be clear, the admins had no actionable reason to block the piracy communities. They did it preemptively.

        • joe@lemmy.world
          11·
          1 year ago

          And due to the nature of IP enforcement, once an object has been created that the copywrite holders could find objective, takedown enforcement becomes impossible when an object is more or less instantly shared across a hundred thousand instances.

          This is not correct.

          • CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.orgEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Solid argument coming from someone on Lemmy world while I run my own instance and am well versed in ActivityPub. I am nothing but correct. I get objects from the fediverse in minutes. You think DMCA notices move that fast??

            I got this object from Lemmy.world in 7 fucking seconds!!

            • joe@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              You might want to reconsider the iamverysmart routine since you couldn’t even spell copyright correctly one comment ago, yet I assume you expect me to believe you have some knowledge of the topic.

              However, your point is my point. There was no risk of a lawsuit; they’d just get a takedown notice.

              Though, now that I scroll up, what does this have to do with whether or not defederation is sometimes warranted? Did I get mixed up, or did you?