It’s discrediting valid concerns against card-payments. It’s invalidating how great cash is.

It’s when the worst person you know makes a good point.

And things now are so Culture-Wars-y, nobody makes solid analyses any more, that when the far-right say cards are bad, everybody jumps to thinking cards are good.

  • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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    We have several stores that refuse to accept cash. A few weeks ago, we had a pretty harsh storm that knocked out power to major parts of the city for a little over a week. The area where these stores are was affected. All the stores next to them have always accepted cash. The surrounding stores continued to have business for that week, while those cash-deterrent stores had no business, and lost their edge (niche market, but they opened first in the area, so people knew them best). It’s been weeks, and those stores still have not picked up foot traffic to levels before the blackout, and one just had a liquidation sale and will likely close soon. Cash should always be an option. Otherwise, we give up our independence from the supporting systems (electricity, internet, payment processors, etc.). On a side note, cash is a lot more private than card.

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      I recently learned that all governments participating in the Euro guarantee that business have to accept cash. Refusing it is a violation of the accords.

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        I think it’s illegal here, too, but they started doing this at covid, after years of trying. If you fight them with it and try to make them accept cash, they’ll just ask you leave. If you stay after being asked to leave, you’re now trespassing, which is also illegal and is treated much more harshly than refusing to accept cash.

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    Personally I never use cash anymore, because cards are just more convenient. That being said, I agree with the conspiracy nuts that cash should always stay a viable alternative. I trust the current government and banks enough, but if all goes to shit I want to be able to pay with cash to keep my data safe.

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    I don’t see how conspiracy theories would discredit cash over card. They often cite the same reasons any other anti-card payment people have. They just have weird reasons to need those features. If they’re paranoid about being “got” by “them,” they’re usually into the private nature of cash and all that goes along with it, same as any other privacy concerned person.

    They certainly don’t hurt it as much as drug dealers and money launderers.

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    The lack of privacy is kind of the point. I can never go back to cash. Yes, there’s a ton of problems with credit cards and definitely censorship issues, but the pros still heavily outweigh the cons. Money is dirty, messy to deal with, change is a nightmare, can get lost, can get stolen, can’t really carry around large amounts, and is generally really bulky to carry around.

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      While the last pandemic investigation showed that those machines where you put in your pin in supermarkets had more bacteria/viruses than cash. Much more people using those terminals more frequently than any same coin or same bill.

      Digital money is stolen more often and in higher amounts. People who are glorifying credit cards do it until they got scammed or hacked and loose all their savings or even their identity. They go from “credit card fuck yeah” to “why have I been so stupid?” within a minute.

      And why would you even carry a large amount of money with you? People who use cash, use common sense in general.

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        Credit cards have charge backs and fraud protection, buddy. You are significantly safer using them. That’s the benefit to them being privacy invasive.

        Using chip is also a bit cleaner then swiping. You also don’t use just a single dollar bill or coin, you are touching multiple quantities, giving and receiving.

        Also your other replies are super toxic and you talk like a child so I’m just going to block you here.

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      Sounds like one of those people in infomercials who can’t handle pouring juice in a cup. Cash is a nightmare, bulky? Really?

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        Have you ever put cash in your wallet? It gets fat really quick. Not to mention, who wants to carry dirty coins around. Cash in general is disgusting.

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          I’m imagining black and white b-roll of someone trying to stuff a crumpled up wad of bills into a wallet and fishing quarters out of a toilet.

          “There’s got to be a better way!”

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              If only there were some way to exchange coins for notes…imagine if someone even invented an automated machine that could do it in seconds! But I guess that will never happen. Nope, just gotta keep hauling my sack of coins around like I’m in some old Disney cartoon…

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                You do that after every single cash transaction?

                Surely there’s a long period between that and a transaction, I don’t know why I have to explain such an incredibly basic thing. This is what like every single person does.

                What a strange person.

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                  No, you obviously don’t do it after every transaction. You save the change until you have plenty saved up and then exchange it for bills. This is what like every single person does.

                  What a strange person

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      Uhh yucky money!

      I must live in a glass bell to protect me and never ever let my immune system do its job!

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    I actually saw a sticker recently placed on a bus stop saying “save Poland, use cash” and I was very perplexed by it. I suspected it was some far-right/alt-right bs, but wasn’t sure.

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    I wouldn’t mind using cash, but I also don’t want to keep a bunch of money lying around my house aside emergency funds. I also don’t want to drive all the way to a bank branch or some ATM in a sketchy part of town in the middle of the night to buy something

    Credit cards have also made it too easy for entire countries to rack up life ruining debt. It’s the point, I suppose.

    I suppose the ultimate compromise is: use a credit card to withdraw cash (many companies allow this), and use that cash for private purchases. Though I’m not sure how chargebacks work with withdrawn cash.

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    Ye, it’s all a right wing conspiracy! Or left! Or middle… Who cares, just keep consuming and don’t ask questions.

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    Privacy matters the most to people who have something material to lose with it, this unfortunately for pr reasons (but fortunately for many other reasons) includes bigots

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    I just bought a new wallet that has a coin pouch because I use cash (and coins) so frequently.

    Even if I disagree with a political faction often, I’m perfectly willing to show support when I do agree. It’s the honest thing to do.

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    „ppl i don’t agree with have the same stance on privacy for basically the same reasons as I do and because the media is trained like pawlow‘s dogs they will now frame the exact opposite as sane and now I’m mad at the ppl I don’t agree with“ - the post.