John Deere brags about sabotaging competitors & customers on hot mic - they’re PROUD of it!

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    11 months ago

    Corporations would have us all subscribe to the oxygen supply if they could.

    Take apart all the things. Reverse engineer their shit. Create open alternatives. Fuck all these monsters. John Deere, Apple, Samsung, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, everybody included.

    • jampacked@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Sounds like a screamy no context statement in vague cannibalistic threat form, fed made.

        • pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz
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          Not necessarily. A bunch of us could band together and fund a bunch of folks who are good at building shit and just commission them to design and build new tractors that are easily repairable – preferably electric too – and then sell them. And this effort could be incorporated as a non-profit, which itself legally can own businesses and those businesses could sell them at a profit, and kill off John Deere’s shitty-ass company and any other shitbirds that want to take away consumers’ rights to own their own products.

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              Because it’s idiotic and non-actionable. I didn’t down vote him though. I say go ahead and try it, see how far you get. John Deer has lots of money, it’s not like they wouldn’t act to stop you. They’ll sue you into oblivion and they won’t even need a case with merit to drive your little startup into the ground. They’ll just outspend you, not to mention they’ll have consolidated supply lines that you’ll need and that they will not share. The first rule of capitalism is that competition is not to be tolerated.

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                  If someone challenges you to a fist fight, don’t fist fight them. They want you to fist fight them because it gives them advantage. They’ve trained and prepared for fist fights their entire life. You are doing them a favor by fighting them by their rules. You have to fight them on your terms, playing your own game. Whatever your game is, that’s the way you have to face them. harrass, sabotage and disrupt. Failing that, guillotines are a very fun game indeed.

                  taking on a business, with business is like wresting a pig. You’ll both get dirty and the pig likes it.

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                You’re incorrect with your item number one, as far as being able to take an invention from the drawing board to actual product ready to be sold.

                Under the right conditions it can be done for a lot less is what you’ve stated.

        • grayman@lemmy.world
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          Look up Edison Motors. A literal logger in Canada is beating out every truck company with investors. People are excited and lining up to buy them (logging companies anyway).

          What he’s doing with logging trucks can be done with tractors.

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              11 months ago

              What is it? 90% of companies fail in under 3 years?

              I get it. Still cool to see someone try and try well.

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            Wow, that’s a cool little company. Also, “Stealing Tesla’s Ideas”, ha.

            Related to the sibling comment, good ideas are rarely the whole story to a company’s success. Execution (and luck) matter.

            I’m going to need to read up more on them. The jump from “regular truck drivers who do repairs” to “so we put a locomotive drivetrain in our truck” is too big and I think it’s really the key to them getting off the ground.

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        11 months ago

        Are brother printer still good? I thought they started doing the ink DRM thing and other bullshit too.

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          I have a brother color laser from 2013 that’s still printing awesome. toner cartridges are $200 for all 4 colors, but I only replaced them in 2015, 2019, and at the beginning of this summer - getting a few thousand pages out of each, conservatively. it’s not a glossy photoprinter, but if you just need high res document prints, I cannot recommend it enough. wifi, cat5, driver is built in to windows 10/11, works fine with android and linux too.

          • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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            I run a multifunction colour Brother as well. I’ve used it with Brother and various other brands of toner without issues. It will keep printing even if a cartridge is empty. Finding consumables is easy. It runs great from Linux (duplex scans and prints), Windows and mobiles through the LAN. It’s a great machine. You can even override the “low toner” alarm and basically double the life of your cartridges (maybe shake them a bit beforehand). You just swap them out when the quality visibly degrades. I think I bought it for about 400€, it was well worth it.

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            yup. I never thought I’d feel evangelistic about a brand of printers but holy hell did everyone else race to the bottom of the shit barrel in this entire category. so here we are, praise brother lol, they’re COMPETENT.

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          11 months ago

          Sorta. My old MFP Brother apparently has a firmware update available that makes it aware of the toner brand and I just ignore it. It’s not as bad as HP where a low level of ink turns the machine into a brick.

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          My 5 year old brother color laser is awesome. Cheap to run and toner doesn’t dry out, and it doesn’t wake up in the middle of the night and clean (i.e. use up) the ink.

          However having seem comments like this, I think I will hold off on any firmware updates.

    • lennybird@lemmy.world
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      Yeah I don’t know how anyone could compel themselves to buy one. Do they really have that much of a monopoly on the industry? Is their tech that much further advanced? I genuinely don’t know.

      What is the best, more ethical alternative? Growing up my dad had New Holland and we liked them. Eventually I’ll be going more rural and choosing a route to take and it sure as shit won’t be John Deere.

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        11 months ago

        One? Probably not. A fleet of 5-20 to tend a thousand or more acres, I can see that. They’ve basically got the things able to run on autopilot for many processes

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    I remember my grandpa casually telling a story one time when our family went out for pizza. He talked about how all the farm animals in the village and surrounding villages in Mexico suddenly died, and then John Deere came around selling tractors. This would’ve happened around the late 1950s I think. I have no idea if this is true or not.

    • TheCraiggers@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Is it? I don’t remember seeing a guy running for Congress that promised he’d prevent huge corporations from running rough shod over everything.

      People like saying stuff like “just vote better”, but the fact is the vast majority of people that run for any office are pro-big business because that’s their background and the lobbyists give them lots of money to get elected. Where’s the anti-big business guy going to get his money to run? And without money, you sure aren’t winning.

      Through lobbying, corporations have us all by the balls. It doesn’t matter what side of the isle you’re on; both sides have basically been endorsed by big money.

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        I don’t remember seeing a guy running for Congress that promised he’d prevent huge corporations from running rough shod over everything.

        What we need is ranked voting so someone like that might have a chance on the ballot.

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          11 months ago

          We need to vote on bills directly, having representatives is stupid.

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        11 months ago

        Campaign finance reform is necessary to tackle big business interests out for regulatory capture. Shift some of that subsidy into funding campaigns so the little guy stands a chance against them and their billionaire club.

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      The result of vote is only as good at the voting system used and the people voting. A more representative voting system leads to more public representation in government, which would likely improve the lives of the voters who will vote next time.

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          I’m not sure about that. A party that ‘wins’ under first-past-the-post/winner-take-all is unlikly to change the voting system such that they would be less likely to get into power next time. I have no idea of the path to changing the voting system. I hope intoducing people to other voting systems helps.

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    I’m sure those competitors will successfully sue them for <1% of their yearly profit in damages, plus they’ll suffer a single employee’s salary amount in fines.

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    Does this dude severely lack sleep or something ? I don’t understand why his eyes are like this.

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      Lol he actually made a video about it once because people kept asking him. He said that he went to a doctor and they said he was just ugly.

      I dont watch this guy’s videos that often, but coincidentally I saw that one.

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      It’s not easy being the only man in the world fighting for right-to-repair laws. Every company he exposes, more life is drained from behind his eyes.

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        Soulless company used life steal.

        Joke aside , his work is really impressive but his fight is already lost if most people just consume ( unrelated , fuck printer companies ) and accept their fate. We need aware citizens and there’s not many of them. We’re kinda doomed.

        People accept DRMs and planned obsolescence as if they can’t fight them. They don’t know their strength and thzt if they decide to boycott these shitty companies they’d die.

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            Erm… That’s a thing, but lay a little more context on us.

            Hochul isn’t enough to sink the movement, at all. We’ve conquered a foothold into enemy territory (and I mean those words), it’s been sabotaged to be smaller than expected, but so it goes.

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              I mean moreso on the life steal;

              He’s been dealing with NY screwing him for years after they misfiled his business - they didn’t merge his temp license into his actual license once he received it, so when he filed taxes it only applies to the real business license and not the temp license. Because he had the real business license, he no longer had access on his account to see the temp business license. That temp business license then started missing years of tax filings, and they put a lien on his business. Once again, he never knew because he didn’t have that business license on his account. Also, he did not get any mail because whoever fucked up merging the licenses in a spreadsheet did it to 400+ businesses and also replaced the address for all of them with some random PO box in another state. That meant that for years he’d been getting denied for loans to try and expand his business unlike other businesses in the same field, because of something he could never have known about. The only reason he did find out was when he decided to move his business to Texas for a number of other NY related reasons (e.g. them trying to stop him doing business for selling abandoned laptops because he didn’t register them even though he didn’t need to, not giving or responding to inquiries for permits, etc.) And only then once he sold his business and had 1M sitting in his bank account did the bank act nice and give him am agent who then relayed that there had been a lien for almost a decade

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                Yeesh. People wonder why us new Yorkers are such hard-asses out of the gate, then you see this kind of fuckery.

                Nobody protects us better than ourselves, especially when it comes to the shitbag NYPD.

                Thanks for the background on that, his shop wasn’t the only one getting the squeeze that I used to frequent. I mean hell, Chinatown is a shadow of it’s 1999 self.

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    I’ve never had need for a tractor, but if I did, I wouldn’t buy their shit.

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    this is what you get when you gut regulatory powers in your government, you morons who vote Republican… pull your heads out of your lazy, fat asses…

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        This is inherently a political issue, because partisan policies enable this sort of abusive behavior from John Deere in the first place.

        If you can’t see that, then you don’t understand the full breadth of the situation being discussed, and probably should avoid commenting on it. There’s no point in popping into a conversation to say “I don’t understand anything that’s going on, but here’s what I think about it anyway”, because nobody cares for uneducated opinions. Unless you’re just fishing for an internet argument, in which case I recommend maybe just sticking to a Roblox forum or something else that’s more to your speed.

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            so you don’t understand the direct causal relationship between Republican politics, and deregulation… that’s what you’re telling everyone here… that your head is too buried to see that…

            you need to understand that when you speak, it mostly just sounds like farts, son… you need to try to speak more clearly…

            this is why no one needs to take your concerns seriously…