The obligatory “I think you meant rogue-lite not rogue-like” because the roguelike community is very pedantic about their definition and Tarkov literally could not be a roguelike.
But it’s also not the EXACT same formula as a roguelite. For starters there are no PVP roguelites so the entire PVP aspect of the game is already huge deviation from that the formula. Secondly death is a mechanic in roguelites. You die, you made some progress, you start again usually with some new twist of the new character. In Tarkov death is a failure state. Sure, you can make some progress in some quests or hideout upgrades, but overall you will lose progress whenever you die (lost equipment, lost quest items that you took into raid, cost of healing up, cost of getting new equipment etc). Void Bastards is the closest roguelite that is comparable to Tarkov. There are a lot of similarities there, but they’re also very different in many ways.
Not to mention the Tarkov we are can currently play (and what most likely will also be the final release) is also a very different game compared to what Nikita (game director) originally envisioned. What Nikita envisioned was something between the current Tarkov and STALKER games. Not in the mutants and anomalies way but in the way of how the maps connect and how you need to actually traverse “the world” to do the quests. If you’ve played Tarkov enough you know that the maps already connect, some extractions literally tell you how they connect to the other areas and you can see the same landmarks on different maps. But it’s becoming clearer that they’re not actually going to finalize the original vision, they’re going to make the ending and then push the game out the door.
It is, but just because two games follow the same formula for their gameplay loop doesn’t mean they will be equally good. There are a LOT of other factors.
I’m not sure why you’re attacking me, especially when I’m the one saying it’s hard to bring a “formula” together into an excellent game.
Surely if I was easily pleased I would just love any attempt at an extraction shooter? Or every single roguelike, maybe? I have no idea why you even decided this about me.
It amazes me that people don’t notice this is the exact same formula for roguelikes.
The obligatory “I think you meant rogue-lite not rogue-like” because the roguelike community is very pedantic about their definition and Tarkov literally could not be a roguelike.
But it’s also not the EXACT same formula as a roguelite. For starters there are no PVP roguelites so the entire PVP aspect of the game is already huge deviation from that the formula. Secondly death is a mechanic in roguelites. You die, you made some progress, you start again usually with some new twist of the new character. In Tarkov death is a failure state. Sure, you can make some progress in some quests or hideout upgrades, but overall you will lose progress whenever you die (lost equipment, lost quest items that you took into raid, cost of healing up, cost of getting new equipment etc). Void Bastards is the closest roguelite that is comparable to Tarkov. There are a lot of similarities there, but they’re also very different in many ways.
Not to mention the Tarkov we are can currently play (and what most likely will also be the final release) is also a very different game compared to what Nikita (game director) originally envisioned. What Nikita envisioned was something between the current Tarkov and STALKER games. Not in the mutants and anomalies way but in the way of how the maps connect and how you need to actually traverse “the world” to do the quests. If you’ve played Tarkov enough you know that the maps already connect, some extractions literally tell you how they connect to the other areas and you can see the same landmarks on different maps. But it’s becoming clearer that they’re not actually going to finalize the original vision, they’re going to make the ending and then push the game out the door.
I always mix up roguelike and roguelite so thank you for explaining.
I don’t know how they plan to manage the Hideout if they want to have this open world.
Nobody knows exactly how it would’ve worked, but people speculated that the bunker extracts would connect to the hideout.
I love Roguelikes. I love FPS. Tarkov is my favorite game, but damn does it squander it’s potential.
It is, but just because two games follow the same formula for their gameplay loop doesn’t mean they will be equally good. There are a LOT of other factors.
Yep. Like easily pleased idiots like you.
I’m not sure why you’re attacking me, especially when I’m the one saying it’s hard to bring a “formula” together into an excellent game.
Surely if I was easily pleased I would just love any attempt at an extraction shooter? Or every single roguelike, maybe? I have no idea why you even decided this about me.
You should work on that reading comprehension.