• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, but you can also just say men, that’s fine. If we go that route we should add asterisks on every word with explanations and definitions and whatnot.

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            1 year ago

            I’m trying to make the poing that changing language to be inclusive doesn’t work. It’s the same as the LGBT group, that now is LGBTQIRBFHAHFH or something? I lost count. Same with the damn rainbow flag that now looks more like a million pixels project than a flag.

            Every day there is somebody out there that feels special and now needs to be included too and it hasn’t stopped and it won’t stop.

            Somebody is trans and wanted to be a man and transitioned? How about we just call them what they wanted to be in the first place? “Men”. Simple.

            This entire “people with penises” languages is just made up solutions for made up problems that doesn’t actually solve or improve anything

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              You’ve made so many comments to whine about one person using specific and inclusive language. You waste a lot more time demanding that the general population regress to your level of ignorance than you would just observing and moving on.

              In this case, the person was talking about penises and the people who have them. The rules you are trying to apply don’t work here. Trans people without penises would not be included in what the person was talking about.

              Nobody cares that you don’t like the aesthetic of the progress flag. Nobody cares that LGBTQIA2 is too big for your brain. You’re not the main character. I think that’s the real issue you’re rallying against here.

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      1 year ago

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the ratio of trans women to men in the audience of this product was a lot higher than in the general population.

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        If you transitioned to become a man, wouldn’t you want to be called just that, “man”?

        Either way, this “people with penises” is the type of waking in eggshells language that makes everyone annoyed just to satisfy a few perpetually slighted. It’s perfectly fine to say “men”, everyone knows what we mean, nobody is excluding anyone and you can’t talk in ways that includes everyone because anytime you try, you’ll just end up with yet someone else who feels insulted because you didn’t include his particular interpretation of how he/she/xe/sho/is/zil/etc feels…

        At one point we just need to remember nthst people typically aren’t trying to insult anyone in normal speech and er shouldn’t require and force people to our special and particular speech only or feel insulted.

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          You’re dedicating a lot of time and effort getting pissed off at something that doesn’t matter to you at all and I assure you that you might think you’re saying what everyone else is thinking but actually you’re just off in a corner by yourself fuming.

          Get help.

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          People who buy chastity cages presumably want someone to lick them in it and refuse to let them out … like the hacker was doing to them.

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        The overly PC language that is just annoying most people just so you a can pretend to include people when in reality you don’t.

        Just talk plain English. It doesn’t insult or exclude anybody to say “men” or “women”

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            1 year ago

            No.

            I’m against this though because people talking like this usually push others to do the same, saying they’re oppressive if they don’t. This has led to situations like in government buildings where announcements normally start with “ladies and gentlemen, please…” now no longer can do that “because that is oppressive, abusive and exclusive”. Never mind that comedy has but completed disappeared because people have gotten scared to make a joke. Can’t risk someone feeling insulted anymore!

            Now I’m starting to see more and more “people with penises” and it’s tiring.

            Saying the word “man” or “woman” is fine. Even for those in the trans community because they actually wanted to be the other sex, right? Plus, we all know what is meant, nobody is trying to exclude anyone, so how about we stop trying to be so politically correct?

            The rant is against people who feel slighted when they see normal language being used. If that insults you, too bad.

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              Ah yeah so if you’re for restricting speech, you’re against free speech. That’s just how that works. You don’t get to play language police and also pretend you’re pro-free speech.

              Thanks for trying to dance around that though.

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          What’s not plain English about “people with a penis”? It seems excessively clear and to the point.

          Is the word “people” too difficult for you?

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            Or you can stop playing dumb, of course.

            Nobody talks like this but a very small and very select little group of people that can’t stop congratulating eachother for being so politically correct.

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              Who’s playing dumb?

              You knew what the speaker meant and challenged their use of language.

              I’m asking what’s unclear about the term “people with a penis” and you’re getting riled up.

              Are you ok?

              It seems like your entire gripe here is “those aren’t the words I would use and I’m not ok with that”

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                I’m unsure what is hard to understand. The problem is people talking like they’re mentally retarded just to avoid stepping on the toes of special snowflakes. There. Clear? I am getting tired of people falling over themselves to avoid a tiny group going “eeeekk!!!” for no reason.

                You can just say “men”. That IS the right word, you don’t insult anyone.

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                  The problem is people using clear language to describe something, and you preferring different language? Is that a correct assessment of your anger?

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                    Give it a few years and we won’t be able to use the word penis, because now that is deemed toxic. The proble is that there will always be somebody who feels insulted and there will for some reason awalys be a group of people that jump on the wagon and will try to go out of their way to please people like that.

                    So I say, “people will penises” is abusive! I am special and I want that not we say “people with banana shaped organs on their bodies”, that is the only acceptable way of identifying these individuals