• MrNesser@lemmy.world
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    Putin: So about those weapons

    Kim: Yes we would love more weapons

    Putin: awkward silence…

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    Nothing says desperation like going to a country even more sanctioned to buy some weapons.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    North Korea’s Kim Jong Un plans to travel to Russia this month to meet President Vladimir Putin, a US official has told the BBC’s US partner CBS.

    Weapons on display at the meeting included the Hwasong intercontinental ballistic missile, believed to be the country’s first ICBM to use solid propellants.

    There is concern both in Washington and in Seoul about what North Korea would get in return for such a deal, which may result in increased military cooperation between the two countries in Asia.

    The newspaper’s diplomatic correspondent, Edward Wong, told BBC News channel that an advance team of North Korean officials had travelled to Vladivostok and Moscow late last month.

    They “included security officers who deal with the protocol surrounding travel of the leadership, so that was a strong sign for officials looking at this”, Wong said.

    That meeting came just months after a summit in Vietnam between Mr Kim and then-US President Donald Trump had failed to make progress on denuclearising the Korean peninsula.


    The original article contains 718 words, the summary contains 166 words. Saved 77%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    As viewers of Perun Will know, North Korea has one of the largest stockpiles of artillery shells in the world. Russia uses artillery at a prodigious rate, and can’t keep up with its usage.

    So Russia gets the older stockpile of artillery shells, which we knew they’re going to get, the worrisome thing is what is North Korea going to get from the deal?

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      If they were smart, food and fuel.

      Since they’re NK, probably personal enrichment for Kim, and maybe some cold war era nukes.

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        Money sure. Probably access to energy reserves, maybe even a pipeline for natural gas to North Korea. But more likely military technology

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        Which currency?

        Rubles are pretty useless at the moment, and for the foreseeable future.

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      North Korea has one of the largest stockpiles of artillery shells in the world.

      I’m curious how well preserved those shells are. Russia itself was sending shells to the front that were non-functional because of poor storage. I wonder if North Korea did a better job of preservation.

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        It’s going to be a low percentage, but that’s better than nothing, maybe it isn’t better than nothing I don’t know. The artillery crews aren’t going to be super happy about old ammunition I’m sure.

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          There has also been a history of North Korea screwing over Russia with regards to arms. Recently North Korea hacked Russia to steal hypersonic missile designs and data. Even if the overall percentage of ruined shells is lower, North Korea could choose to send ALL of the ruined ones to Russia with a number good shells, and charge Russia as though all of them are good.

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    The best thing about buying weapons from north Korea is all the artillery pieces come with oxen for maximum battlefield mobility.

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    North Korea’s biggest sin is surviving a genocidial war against them by the US, the West simply cannot forgive such transgressions.

    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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      Jesus Robert Christ, what other amazing historical tidbits do you have rattling around up there? This is fascinating as hell!

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        I suppose you support killing millions of Koreans and bombing 70% of Pyongyang? Afterwards sanctioning the country to hell?

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          We just have to look at how the populations are faring between the two systems. Which population is enjoying a better quality of life? The Koreas are an experiment of the capitalist society versus the central economy. So we can take this data how we like. As far as sanctions go Korea has a land border with both Russia and China, so that should not have been a major factor in the centrally planned economy.

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            Yes please lets do that. Which system has twice the higher birth rates? Which system has more than twice larger military? Which system is self-sufficient? Which system has preserved their national culture and hasn’t degenerated into little USA? Which system survived a genocidial war and being sanctioned by almost the entire world?

            The two Koreas are a perfect example indeed, the South is for the degenerate liberals who only care about their access to fast food and porn, while the North is for patriots that wish to preserve their unique culture and way of life.

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      I believe that you have it backwards. North Korea, backed by China and with the approval and arming by the USSR, invaded South Korea. South Korea remains independent today because it was defended by the UN. The North’s allies promised to rebuild the North after the war and poured billions of roubles into the country. They remained dependent on the eastern bloc countries until the USSR fell and China opened up to the West. The North’s economy fell apart in the 1990’s after they were no longer propped up by others. The US provided $600 million in aid for food and energy starting in 1995. Sanctions against North Korea did not start until 2006.

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        Fun fact, Russia a permanent member of the UN security council could a vetoed the UN resolution allowing UN intervention in The Korean civil war. But they were boycotting the UN at the time for some reason

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        North Korea invaded South Korea as much as revolutionary Americans “invaded” loyalist Americans.

        North Korea indeed did have some troubles in the 1990s, which is to be expected when one is cut off from all support, yet they pulled through well and are now self-sufficient. One can’t say the same about South Korea with its worsening living conditions and plummeting birth rates, and this is with Western support.

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          From Wikipedia:

          After failed attempts of negotiations on unification, North Korean army (Korean People’s Army or KPA) forces crossed the border and drove into South Korea on 25 June 1950.

          Sounds way more like Russia invading Ukraine.

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            Was the American revolution an “invasion” against the english? Or the French revolution an “invasion” against the monarchists?

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        🥱

        Imagine having a discussion with some that disagrees with you.

        Look at Cuba, to see how much the US doesn’t play fair with communist nations.