• suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml
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    23 days ago

    If you think voting in a way that helps Trump win is a vote against genocide, I have some bad news for you.

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      23 days ago

      If you vote for a genocider, you vote for genocide. You shouldn’t do that. It’s wrong to support and normalize genocide.

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        I would love to vote for no genocide, but once again, even more genocide is not only on the ballot, but has taken the lead in the last few days. Meanwhile the no genocide candidate on offer here couldn’t manage to get on the ballot in enough places to to win and couldn’t be arsed to follow the rules in the places they did bother. So forgive me if I choose to live in reality and do the only thing I can that might actually stop the even more genocide guy.

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          23 days ago

          I would love to vote for no genocide

          Then don’t vote for a genocide candidate. Easy. Done.

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            23 days ago

            Lots of things are easy when you refuse to acknowledge the consequences of your actions. Enjoy the sand in your ears.

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              You said you’d love to do something as if it’s difficult when it is actually trivially easy.

              You should be against genocide and not vote for genocide candidates. You seem to disagree. So, tell me. Tell me, “I will vote for a genocide candidate and normalize genocide”. Acknowledge your compliciy before making your excuses.

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                We want to vote for zero genocide, but our broken two party system has become a horrific trolley problem where the only choices given to us are full genocide and half genocide. So I will vote for half genocide because the trolley will default to full genocide if we don’t.

                Seriously, this is a trolley problem. You have the entire Palestinian population on the track (Trump), but you can pull a switch to move the trolley to only kill half as many (Harris). It sucks and I will never forgive our broken system for forcing me to make such a choice, but until we replace our corrupt system with something better we have to minimize harm in every way we can.

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                  We want to vote for zero genocide

                  What I said was that you should not vote for or normalize genocide. You and others apparently disagree.

                  So tell me that you think you should support genocide or vote for genocide candidates.

                  This dithering is just lying to yourselves and others. In support of genocide.

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        23 days ago

        You’re not wrong, but people who are voting against fascism are also not wrong. There are pros and cons to each.

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          If you support genocide there is little meaningful difference between you and any modern fascist.

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          21 days ago

          If you believe genocide is the way to stop fascism, you’re a fascist.