There are how many people on that list, and you’re picking one of them? What about Gates, who was the top four a long time? Dell? Buffet?

You have a preconceived notion, and you’re sticking to it, regardless of data.

It’s not a good comparison. You can also say that a PhD doesn’t help you at all to be a fast food worker.

For a given profession, if you’re looking to hire an entry level person at an entry level salary, and someone applies who has decades of experience in that profession, it makes a difficult situation for the organization. When it’s time for raises, how do you fairly compare that person to the actual entry level people? If the person could legitimately get double their salary, are they going to stay on your team for the lower salary? Stuff like that makes it problematic.

That’s what it is at my work. I had a req opened for an early/mid career position (say a BS plus 6 to 10 years of experience). I had a number of applicants who had 30+ years of experience. They’d qualify for two or three job codes higher than the position I had, with significantly higher salary. It just doesn’t make sense to hire like that.

Does that animation make anyone else motion sick?

You’re going to take a single counter example and throw out everything else? I also mentioned there are different types, and some are like Christy Walton, who haven’t worked at all. But neither of those examples means that there aren’t a bunch of workaholics on the list.

Look, at least most of us agree that the wealth inequality is grotesque, but I’m not sure why you have a hard time with the concept that a lot of people get rich by focusing on making money and working very hard at it. I have a hard time with the concept of a CEO making orders of magnitude more than the average worker’s salary, but that doesn’t mean they don’t work a lot.

No, she/we didn’t eat it all at once, but none of the rest of it made it into the oven, either.

Thanks for sharing that. I was repeating things trans people in my personal life have said, but as you point out, there’s no single universal experience.

Really glad to hear you’re happier now. It very much sucks that society (and individuals in society) made you feel badly for being who you are.

A week or two ago, I made my wife some peanut butter cookies, because she really likes those. I decided to keep half the dough in the fridge so I could make more fresh. The next day I grabbed a nice dark chocolate square from a bowl we keep on the counter and thought, “I wonder how the league butter dough would be on this.” Oh my god, it was like the best Reese’s peanut butter cup you’ve ever had. Truly amazing.

However I feel in no way that I am in the wrong body.

I’m not trans, but I believe that’s the key. You said “turn out trans,” but I believe most trans folks never really felt like they were in the right body, ever, though they might not have realized what it was that was wrong earlier. It’s not like people wake up one day and think, “oh shit, I’m trans!”

Oh, well, that’s pretty well documented. Most of those guys started companies and worked giant amounts of time.

What are you disagreeing with?

And I in no way was saying that the wealth inequity wasn’t absurd.

What are you basing that on? Here’s a list - most are workaholics.

Yeah, that’s mostly the case. There’s a lot of people here just making a lot of assumptions, but there’s quite a bit of information on billionaires as individuals. For instance, there’s this Forbes list, where you can click each one to get a summary of how they got rich.

There isn’t one type. There are the ones like Bezos and Dell, who got rich by growing one or more businesses, and are still at it. They likely don’t work normal hours, but they likely work more than 40. Some of those, like Gates, get older and move on to other things like foundation work, but not an actual job. Hard to say what kind of hours they work. Then there are the ones like Christy Walton, who inherited their wealth and don’t really ever work.

Trump’s lies have gotten so over the top. We’re like two steps away from him saying he was one of the guys who walked on the moon.

And his cult will believe it.

So most of Trump’s are just outright lies, while most of Biden’s are things like “Well it’s true it happened but it’s hard to know if it’s because of him,” or “It’s true Trump said that a bunch of times but he hasn’t been saying that lately.”

Thank god it’s over!

So… There’s really going to be a second debate? I don’t know that I can take it.

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I agree, and have said the same repeatedly. In 2020, I just wanted a president who wasn’t a complete crook, con man, and national embarrassment. I didn’t think Biden would accomplish much, I just hoped he could repair our reputation with other countries a little.

I was stunned that Biden accomplished more than Obama. He certainly isn’t perfect, but he’s fine a good job. Just that infrastructure bill would be something most presidents would take as their legacy, but he’s done a lot more.

He’s too damned old, but I’ll still take him over Trump.

It’s gotten better, and I agree. I’m really happy about them turning off the mics. But I still think they’re letting Trump ramble more than Biden.