But I agree. Antagonize them endlessly.

My goal is not to antagonize. We do not agree.

I genuinely love where I live (Bay Area)

The people are of much higher quality on the eastern slopes of the Sierra Nevada.

I stopped working with them. I’m much happier for it.

Communist revolution because capitalism has failed as predicted is the primary and public point of community unification for hexbear. Your assertions are laughable.

Remember that the opponent never communicates in good faith. There’s only two languages they understand: money and physical violence.

Absolutely unadulterated bullshit. You either have no clue what you’re talking about or you are a foreign operative here intentionally trying to undermine democracy. GTFO!

Shallow understanding, a lack of reasoning, and false dichotomy won’t get you far as a programmer. You’ll stagnate in the exploitation stage.

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If you don’t have dependants then I encourage you to get your name on that first list. We’ll die together, without regret, our dignity intact.

You delivered nonsense without even considering semantic. You felt entitled to others figuring it out for you. And, you were rejected due to your lack of effort.

I’ll now reject you for gaslighting me about your comments, which I’ve read, and the follow up strawman.

It’s simply not good enough. I don’t care why. But, I know you’ve nothing to contribute but practice material for identifying logical fallacy.

You’ve forgotten to mention the minority that did not agree and how strongly they believed they were correct. You’ve seemingly not considered that democracy’s best case scenario is mediocrity.

We will not be led by or stagnate upon popularity among the lumpen. Democracy be damned when faced with such a threat.

Predictable responses, now assigning me intent. I’ll no longer disturb your comfortable order. Best of luck, neolib.

Did I fault your content or your presentation of it?

Nice strawman. You just can’t help yourself.

Here’s the vote that approved the granular instance-by-instance approach

And then what happened? It seems like you were present for awhile but perhaps not in the trenches, through the OpSec, and to the end.

What?

Indeed.

Are you describing the consensus building and struggle sessions as “forcing the wisest decision on everyone”?

Q: Why did hexbear brigade the fediverse?

A: Certainly for the lulz. /s

Definitely not a neolib

Language analysis of your post history says differently. If you’re not a neolib troll then perhaps you should stop presenting as such.

Yes.

If I invest effort into figuring it out for myself and demonstrate that effort in the quality of my questions then nearly every teacher will at least match my investment. In the US teachers are so starved for good students that one-on-one education is free, from philosophy professors to diesel mechanics. I don’t even need be past the “nonsense” stage, only recognize my status and ask what pieces of the puzzle I’m missing.

edit: fixed a change from first to third person for clarity

Hexbear was the only lemmy for 4 years, over that time their code base diverged, it took a few months to make federation possible again… a lot of users opposed federation concerns about harassment or just valuing one of the few leftist communities. The end result was slow federation, with users suggesting specific instances to federate with, and instances getting defederated if the admins failed to take adequate action against transphobes/chasers.

Now there’s two of us that are speaking truth.

Half this thread is hexbears and others telling people exactly what they believe about random topics.

Are they? That wouldn’t be thematically consistent with their years of telling others what they’d like to hear for their entertainment. Their culture is selfish in that way.

There was never a consensus on whether HB should be segregated

There was never formal consensus in that leadership repeatedly denied the vote, favoring a granular, instance-by-instance approach.

What are you talking about?

An organized, grassroots movement that employed questionable means to force the wisest decision upon leadership and everyone else.

Hello, low effort neolib troll. Thanks for the opportunity to continue to speak truth.

There’s a cultural similarity to what 4-chan was prior to the LOIC. But, they’re definitely not tankies. Sincere expressions of authoritarian means are soundly defeated and usually result in permabans. The principle and practice is consistent for MAGA, neolibs, and other authoritarians.

You can’t deliver garbage writing to communists and expect positive results. The standard of semantics and nuance are set by socio-economic authors predominantly from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. Prerequisite to even speaking is a comprehensive understanding of at least The Conquest of Bread. One is expected to have the ability to segregate content from presentation and ideology from means of implementation. It’s as if you walked into university dynamics and poorly presented an algebra-based approach to a single body problem.

In certain forums, unless I’m very well-informed about a topic, I’ve learned to shut the fuck up unless asking questions, and to ask them with humility. In communist forums, which always stress education, I consistently receive high quality answers.

Also, post is not a genuine question.

I’ll answer yours in good faith.

what else do you expect them to do? Sit and politely agree?

Internally reach consensus to segregate themselves, then brigade the fediverse whole with content that allowed the majority to believe it was their choice.

Because such actions are well outside of status quo want for bandwagon validation they’re by definition “insane” and “unexpected”. But, the hexbear community is well aware that the majority is better off not yet knowing what they believe. Many expected such actions as it was an obvious moral and ethical imperative that lacked internal leadership support.

Based on this interaction I’ve realized my perception of lemmygrad is hypocritical: My experience indicates that our shallow, automated and wide scope language analysis likely isn’t human truth. I’ve decided to spend more time there.

Thank you for risking good faith engagement when it’s not popular or politic. Iron sharpens iron.

The world is so full of maliciousness that status quo is unable to perceive good faith if it disturbs their immediate comfort. You’re part of the minority that’ve chosen principles and reason over popularity. Voices like yours are critically important to our collective future. You’re understood and have my support.

Unsolicited advice: Don’t push to burn out. They’ll have you rolling in the shit with them. Take breaks often.