… You won’t have a name when you ride the big airplane All they will call you will be “deportee”… https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=awKLW7WgGB8&si=uknAHeB2oFiVV5Fv

Skip the toilet paper and install a bidet.

I’ve got several years of experience riding motorcycles. It’s taught me to read traffic. I see a gap in a line of traffic like that, it’s either a driver who’s smart enough not to block an intersection (rare), or someone letting another someone out.

By your logic, Israel’s government is just as culpable: https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

The IDF claims that the children would have been Hamas operatives, on account of who their parents were. It’s not hard to extend that reasoning to the grandchildren. After all, their parents were likely to be Hamas operatives as well.

No judge, no jury, just an executioner, based solely upon the IDFs word that they’re likely to become future terrorists. One might apply that same logic to the whole of Palestine.

No, I think I read you perfectly.

If your society is content with murdering children based on your belief of what they will grow up to be, it’s not a society I’d be comfortable being part of, associating with, or existing alongside.

May you be judged accordingly.

Protests typically do not involve attempting to bash in interior windows, gaining access beyond barricaded doors, and armed officers having to resort to lethal measures to stop allegedly protestors.

Attempted insurrections do.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572

Got anything other than your precious feelings to back that statement up, snowflake?

Very much the point. Building a boat is labor intensive. The materials are relatively inexpensive, compared to the time invested in building. The person selling that used Pocketship was likely the builder, and sees value in their time spent building it.

That ~50 year old Westerly? That labor is long gone. The previous owner did invest his time in a partial refit, but relinquished his interest when he stopped paying storage fees and let a lien be placed on it. The club has no time invested, just the lost storage fees, but would rather minimize future loss; an abandoned boat takes up space that would otherwise be generating revenue for them. The club members (nearly all power boaters) see little value in the boat itself. Any revenue gained from scrapping it would likely exceed the cost to scrap the fiberglass hull (again, a labor intensive process).

She really is a cool boat, though. I’m having a great time completing the refit, and I don’t see my labor invested as lost when I’m enjoying the process as much as I am.

Boats are weird. I’ve looked at buying kit from CLC to build a 15’ Pocketship: about $12,000 US. Buying a used one, a couple years old? $15k.

Meanwhile, my local yacht club had a 26’ 1969 Westerly Centaur one step away from being crushed. Prior owner stopped paying storage fees and refused further contact, so the club put a lien on it. I picked it up cheap, $500. Nobody bothered cutting the lock off the companionway; it was chock full of tools and supplies the prior owner was using to refit it.

I’ve dropped some cash into finishing the refit, but nowhere near what I would have spent on a 15’ Pocketship, and I’ve got a much more capable boat. There are deals out there.

I’d argue for drop that extends across the width of the lane, or both. Couple that with a system that can penetrate heavy rain, and two truck drivers might have lived through a washout of Interstate 88 in Central N a few years back. They didn’t have much of a chance back then.

Well, what’s out there?

Have you seen the quality of content on Tiktok?

Sounds like someone needs to be doing the Googling they keep preaching about.

stares blatantly

Uh huh.

This conversation is over.

Have you ever been to Upstate NY? Had a friend or family spend any time at all up here? I’m thinking you should. That might shine a big spotlight on the differences in living here vs the UK.

Upstate NY is just the cold weather version of the Bible Belt.

Let’s not stop there. Get big corporations out of the legislature. End Citizen’s United.

If the poor folk could organize, pool money together, and spend time lobbying, we might have a chance. We suck at organizing, we’re too short on cash just trying to stay afloat, and we’ve no time to be spending lobbying, either.

You’re right, in that my truck is not everything. It’s a significant point of failure to my ability to maintain my house and life. You can doubt all you want. Do the math: I’m burning 40-80 of wood pellets every day. That’s an 800 lbs load every 10 to 20 days.

Your answer is to replace my Baja & Tacoma with an Outback and trailer. With the cost of everything rising, you want me to sell off my existing vehicles (with their value dropping, as nobody without a work permit can operate them), and replace them… Or hire out a general contractor for all the work I’ve been doing myself.

FYI: That Baja of mine is tow rated for 2,400 lbs.

Man, I’d love to live in whatever world you’re dreaming up. It ain’t the real one, that’s for sure.

Brakes. You left out the important bit. My Baja will tow a lot more than it’ll stop.

Your plan would have me up the creek without a truck, especially if the Baja gets lumped into the truck category on account of it having a bed. Judging from the blank “apply for a permit” plan, it probably would.

I’ve gone down that “Just rent a truck from UHaul.” It stops being realistic when the local UHaul lot can’t handle current demand, much less whatever happens after y’all have taken trucks out of everyone else’s hands.

Take away my ability to keep my house heated, much less in good repair, and you’ll take away my ability to house myself, my family, my pets. They’re everything to me. Take everything away from a man, and see what happens. Then multiply that by every upstate, rural, blue collar man trying to get by… And see what happens to society. It ain’t gonna be pretty.

So you have no plan to differentiate on who gets a permit, and who doesn’t? That leads to one of three situations:

1. Nobody gets a permit.
2. Everyone gets a permit.
3. Nobody gets a permit, except the friends and family of whoever’s in charge of handing out permits.

Good luck with that.