I guess it is a consequence of the Reddit migration where the habit is just keeping the old community name. But having C/Politics being US only on Lemmy.world, an instance that aims to be international (hence the name), seems weird to me.
Would have been cool to give up this assumption that everything is related to US by default when moving away from Reddit. I mean, even the canadian political news of Lemmy.ca is CanadaPolitics.
More than weird, it should be corrected.
How quickly we want to become Reddit I guess.
Well, that community is just as toxic and block-worthy as the reddit sub already. Mission accomplished.
I was more meaning wanting the admins to fuck around with the communities a la /u/spez.
Only fair if you use a generic name like “politics” and make it only about US.
So should all instance users get to vote on what every community is for? Do the creators and mods of that community not get to decide that?
I actually took the other side of this argument when Lemmy was ramping up, that the concept of Federation needed to change to make the system more accessible to non-technical users. And I was told that my idea (federating the communities) was counter to the freedom that Lemmy was designed around.
It can’t be both ways. It’s a cathedral, or it’s a bazaar. But if it’s a bazaar then we have to deal with the reality that sometimes people beat us to the places we want and have different ideas for what they should be.
Nothing is stopping you from starting worldpolitics, globalpolitics, politics2 or politics on another instance.
Are the admins deleting global content or something? If not, wouldn’t correcting it just be more people from other countries posting their own political news?
It’s part of the rules:
Must be articles relevant to US political news. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed.
It should change its name to US Leftist Politics. The mod u/YoBuckStopsHere is responsible for 80 percent of the posts and its comes with their bias. Their mods also delete posts and dont enforce the TOS. If you want to have any educated discussion about politics, thats not the place. Its a very close minded, hostile crowd over there.
I agree. on any other server it would already be questionable, but lemmy.world suggests international appeal. The default news should be world news, with each country heading their own channel.
Lemmy.world is full of US-specific things. It’s quite bizarre that US is probably the only major country that doesn’t have its own instance. I’ve already noted it. And predicted it a month ago, but that didn’t go anywhere.
What do you mean. the USA ain’t the whole world?
Every country in the world belongs to America
Isn’t beehaw in the US? Also midwest.social? Or do you mean an instance run by the country itself?
I mean like feddit.de, feddit.it, feddit.ch, feddit.uk, aussie.zone, lemmy.nz, feddit.cl, lemmy.eco.br, szmer.info… So if you want to have a community about a city in the country, or politics, or a sports team/league, that’s a better place to place for it than [email protected] or [email protected].
It also makes it easier for geographic features with the same name in multiple countries.
I disagree with the concept that there’s a better place for anything. If my account is here, I will create a community/magazine here. I’m not going to segregate myself simply because of my location. You can argue that an instance should suggest naming conventions for localized topics. But it’s up to the instance to require that. There’s no real rules between instances at all. So I find the discussion that a community doesn’t belong in a general purpose instance. If it doesn’t conflict with the intent of the instance and the instance has no naming convention, it’s first come, first serve.
Creating generic rules to apply to other instances aside from the protocol is simply not what the fediverse is about.
Edit to add: also, there’s no default instance for a country either. Sure those that you mentioned exist, but there’s no rule saying Germans need to put German specific things in feddit.de.
There’s gonna be a lot of culture shock from authoritarians throughout the fediverse it would seem. Some people don’t know what to do with a little freedom.
People are generally good with having their own freedom, where they get outraged is when they discover that other people have freedom. Obviously this situation can’t be allowed so rules need to be made, and enforced, so those other people have to conform.
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It also directly goes against their rule 3 which is “no discrimination”.
No, in a space that’s dominated by Americans, and where the base politics forum is US-only, this isn’t discrimination. It’s carving out a space for everyone else.
You don’t get to take over every space your eyes fucking see. You’re not Mufasa.
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Ok, but what you described is literally discrimination against americans. Just because they’re american, doesn’t mean its not discrimination.
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QQ all day long, I guess.
If you changed the word “US” to a middle eastern country, im sure that’d receive a lot of backlash, but since you mentioned the US its acceptable. /s
Your convenient and bad-faith lack of understanding of power imbalances doesn’t make you not a giant crybaby. Go home. Y’all seem to love your isolationist imperial hellscape, just stay there and keep your nose out of what other people are doing. The rest of us don’t want you around, anyway.
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By your logic bathrooms are discriminatory as well. Each instance can set its own rules, if you don’t like the rule then block that instance. Problem solved.
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Maybe the first rule for any topic regarding politics should be to mark your topic/thread with a specific country code right in the title (e.g. US/GB/DE etc.). Maybe even at the beginning of the title of the topic. Obviously that sounds like a hassle to enforce.
In principle I agree, I very much dislike reading headlines about US politicians doing this and that as if I’m supposed to care. It’s always some sort of circle jerk for one side or the other.
There is always going to be a large US community in any global politics forum. That is not a problem. And other parts of the world (let’s say any country in Europe) are never going to be as vocal about their local politics in comparison. Bringing some sort of self-enforced order to these posts could be nice.
Edit: To clarify, I wasn’t commenting because I’m bitter about a community being dominantly US. I do not browse this community. It matters little to me what happens here. The thing I’m mildly annoyed by is headlines like “Republican/Democrat politician #837 does dumb thing #929” showing up on the front page.
I’m aware we could always block a community. Though I would prefer that would be some niche community like e.g “Missouri politics”. The reason I stumbled upon this thread in the first place was because it was on the front page.
I’ll speak to the moderators, if we should unlock it for international politics, but right now it’s US moderators and I barely know italy politics or EU politics but am Interested in adding them.
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Then they should get more europeans, why should there only be mods from the US lol.
Is it US politics simply because there are far, far more Americans on there than from any other country (especially English-speaking)… or is it US politics because other threads are blocked and/or deleted?
There’s a rather large distinction there.
We love you Canada, but let’s be real here, there are almost 10x more Americans than there are Canadians, so naturally there are going to be more political stories posted about the country with the much larger population. If non-US posts are deleted, on the other hand, then that’s messed up.
It’s most likely because r/politics on Reddit was that way, and people tend to make subreddit clones on Lemmy.
Right, which I think is the root problem. Not all the subreddit names were great - I would have liked to have seen us try to do better - but I think many were just trying to make the correlation between communities and subreddits as obvious as possible.
It annoyed me on reddit as well.
“R/collapse” is just about us collapse, for example
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Many times I’ve seen things about the end of the us To be treated like the end of the world. Some time legislation that would be considered irrelevant in other countries. Some times things about the collapse of us government. Economical issues that would that implied improvement somewhere else are treated as a collapse matter because it would threat us (or west) hegemony.
I will check this /c/
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They could change it so it’s only news about world superpowers. Results would be the same though.
