With The 745-mile Solid-state Battery, Toyota Just Became A Force To Reckon With::Toyota has been criticized for not being the most proactive manufacturer out there, but with this new solid-state battery, it just changed the game.
the first vehicles with this battery are expected to be hybrids instead of all-electric vehicles. Toyota claims it will be ready for sale in 2027 or 2028.
This tells me we probably need to wait until 2030+ for this supposed 745mile battery.
745 mile range on the battery and they’d make it a hybrid? What a waste!
Need a more complicated drivetrain, a transmission, an engine block, and a fuel tank. All of that added weight and complexity when you have a 745 mile range without it?
Why? What is their reasoning?
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I’ll believe it when they actually put that battery in a car.
Yeah, how the hell do you fit a 745 mile battery in a 5m car?
Same way you’re able to fit 9m of digestive system inside a human body that you stuffed into a 1m ice box just before the police arrived.
That took a turn. And a fold.
Yeah until they put it in a car that is for sale and I can buy at my local dealer, I ain’t believing it.
…That doesn’t cost 70k
That will be the cost of the most entry level car by the time this makes it to a production vehicle
I love some proper vaporware!
Yeez the EV scene is riddled with promises. Make a car already.
Unfortunately they’ve been pushing the release date of this battery forward for the last two three years or so. I believe they have some core technology but haven’t been able to overcome some critical issues.
The fact that they would put this in a hybrid means there’s something limiting it (ie poor discharge power, overheats easily, etc).
I’d wager it’s just marketing.
Hybrids sell where EVs cannot.
To wit, I want an EV, but I live in an apartment with no place to plug in and work from home; charging would be, at best, a hassle.
So, instead, I got a hybrid.
Toyota has been “about to change the game” for a long time. They are just trying to keep investors happy while not actually investing in evs
If they can mass produce solid state ev batteries, that IS an absolute game changer, because their EVs will have a lifespan many times longer than that of any wet-cell EV.
And if Tesla can get fully reliable self driving, it will be a game changer.
But I’m not holding my breath for either.
Then make a car with it today! This is just propaganda.
Perhaps we’ve gotten too accustomed to the tech-bro approach to corporate PR, in which companies loudly trumpet every half-baked idea that may or may not fizzle into anticlimactic failure. Today, a company waiting until a concept is totally finished and ready for deployment seems almost quaint. … Toyota is the first company that has come out and said it may have solved the range and battery weight problems.
Uhm.
CATL and BYD have already shipped the Sodium Ion batteries that cost nearly a third of LiPho and half that of Li-ion at similar densities, you can buy cells and cars in China already.
They also both have cells and cars out next year with a 2x density Li-ion, it’s already been showcased so we know it exists but it’s not on sale yet. By the time Toyota ships these Chinese companies will have been in market with a comparable product for many years. Sodium ion will do great for existing range and replace LiPho for power storage and the new Li-ion will be used in high range cars and probably replace all Li-ion in everything where density is preferable to price.
How do they manage that you need more sodium to store comparable amount of energy? Larger size?
As far as I know they are equivalent density to LiPho, I don’t know how they do it but it should allow similar range to existing current Li-ion batteries.
Density might be similar, but sodium can accumulate and release much less energy than Lithium, and it is heavier. It means that similar batteries, similar density, would need to be larger and heavier.
That’s the disadvantage of sodium over Lithium
I want to see a car out there with it, and some years of it working…
Ha ha ha. I wonder how much money Toyota paid for this con job.
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Sorry didn’t see it in the article but what’s it made of, and is it as environmentally disastrous as lithium? And how quickly does it charge?
Lithium is disastrous only if not recycled.
Unfortunately recycling is expensive so less profitable
I think you meant expensive.
Not a lot of lithium is recycled nowadays. Added to this is the fact lithium is stuffed into all sorts of disposable junk tech that will likely never even be considered for recycling.
This is the actual problem. Lithium can theoretically be recycled. Governments need to force investments in research and, once good methods are available, force recycling.
No company will do it without push
