Giuliani went from RICO charge prosecutor to a defendant in Fulton County DA Fani Willis’ RICO case over Trump’s alleged 2020 election interference.

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    If Giuliani had retired from public life in the years after 9/11 he would have had a positive entry in the history of the USA.

    Now?

    Well…

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      The praise he received after 9/11 was how I first heard his name. Shining example of “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

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        My sister lived in New York for a decade before 9/11. You do not want to know what the New Yorkers thought of Guiliani.

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          Yep. The guy has always been a total tool all his life. 9/11 gave him a positive reaction for people outside NYC.

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          Yes, please. We do want to know.

          (I read somewhere, long ago, that some suspect he went after the Italian mob in NY merely to clear room for the Russian mob… with attendant kickbacks to him for doing so… any juice to that?)

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            He won his first because a newspaper man named Jimmy Breslin discovered a huge scandal involving a Democrat politician, Donald Manes. Breslin did the hard work and Rudy got to play Mr. DA

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            As a Californian dealing with Feinstein, I am so sick of the “well you voted for them!” bs. We all know how fucked American elections are. We all know that we are not given any true choice of who gets in office. Why would state elections be any better? Even living in a state that’s technically a direct democracy, it still comes down to whoever has the most money. Local elections tend to have more candidates, but less information available on them, and while anyone can propose a ballot initiative here, it again comes down to having enough money to do that.

            The whole thing is a shit show that comes down to choosing democrats or fascists. And while democrats may not be the best choice, the “both sides” thing is also bs because there’s an obvious right choice there.

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                As another Californian I can give you my solution, but the Irish has copyright. My second solution is copyrighted by the French. And my third one is copyrighted by the Czechs.

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                Not who you responded to but states can use ranked choice voting instead of stupid first past the post, you just need to pass the laws. Some states already do.

                People need to think outside the current system, its absolutely rigged to create exactly this predicament we’re in: no real political competition making it easy for the rich to buy the 2 remaining parties and essentially give you a bad and worse choice.

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                Well part of it might come naturally. Ballotpedia and other sites will expand and it will be possible to learn more about local candidates.

                I was toying with an idea for my area. There is a noticeable difference between my rich white district and the poor POC district nextdoor in terms of how easy it is to vote. What if this shame could be harvested? Document the differences, make it easy to report so it can be crowdsourced. And hammer leadership about it. Every single open session, every campaign speech just play the footage of the longer voter lines. Release it under open license so creative types can add music whatnot.

                I am not sure if the idea has any value.

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        New Yorker here.

        It was out of town newspapers/media that pushed Rudy. Locals knew that he’d fumbled the terrorism ball dozens of times. Police and Fire Department were using incompatible radios and weren’t able to coordinate efforts; his anti-terror HQ was destroyed on the day because he didn’t listen to the experts who told him to put it in Brooklyn.

        No one in NYC was priaisning him on 9/12.

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    hahahahahaha, Fulton County Georgia is gonna get and release mug shots on every single one of these motherfuckers, and the court cases are going to be televised, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

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    you know what’s really funny? of the 40 counts on the indictment, Trump is charged with 14. Rudy? 15.

    lmao

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    You can’t piss on the American People and tell them it’s rain forever

    Common sense will eventually prevail, and the truth is golden.

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      Please please pretty please let that be true.

      Since, you know, american people are getting shafted for many decades and still nothing.

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    Didn’t he also pioneer the “perp walk”? Can we pleeeeease see him and The Cheeto led down the courthouse steps in handcuffs? Pretty please?