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One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of
its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka
CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly
and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age. The admin then
demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that
the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We
vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they
decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we
will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of
fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet. If someone
made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that
would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends – not
roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive – to be a child and makes porn,
that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that. One of the reasons we run our
instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don’t body
shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That
means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young,
cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some
people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after.
There’s no way to draw a line that says “you can’t like adult people that look
like X” without crossing a line that we will not cross. EDIT: OK, closing this
post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my
convo with the blahaj admin here [https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/683520].
lemmy.blahaj.zone are left wing extremists with zero tolerance for anyone who doesn’t already believe what they believe. I’m not sure why they don’t just defederate themselves. They’ve been openly upset that people who disagree with them on certain issues keep finding them through the all communities tab and, gasp, disagree with them in the comments.
I don’t see how banning everyone who disagrees with you is easier than creating an insulated community of people who do agree with you, but I guess that’s their preference.
Blahaj only has one political* take and it’s that they support LGBTQ+ if you are shunned from that community chances are you might be the problem.
*(humans living as they please shouldn’t be political)
By that logic, why is it a problem if consenting adults express themselves sexually in non-traditional ways?
Historically speaking, there has always been a lot of overlap and connection between kink and LGTBQ+ communities. There was a time not too long ago where simply being gay was considered to be not only a “sexual perversion” but also a “paraphilic disorder” by the psychiatric community. (Not advocating this viewpoint in any way, just pointing out the historical context.) Because of that, the LGTBQ+ community has basically always been an ally of the kink community, and vice versa. And if you visit a pride parade, for example, I think everyone can agree that there is a general vibe of sex-positivity and personal sexual freedom that suggests that there is no “wrong” sexual expression between consenting adults.
In what context are we talking and how are we presenting?
I see plenty of cis women wanting to go to the beach nearly full cheeks out but that’s considered fine? I can show my bare chest since I am not fem passing, but after a hrt will it suddenly not be fine? Our standards for whats ok and whats not are very iffy at best.
The overlap between kink and lgbtq+ I don’t see as an issue. As long as consenting adults are the ones involved and we keep minors out of it I am 100% for it.
Isn’t that exactly what this thread is about?
As in, blahajzone has defederated from lemmynsfw for kink content which, from what I’ve gathered, seems to consist of consenting adults only.
Sorry, I seemed to have misunderstood what you meant in relation to this thread.
You make a good point actually, I don’t typically consume NSFW so I am not too welled versed in it but it appears that the problem are models who “pass” as younger I guess? I mean I can see the slippery slope and how that might be hypocritical to the initial I stated. My opinion on that is its a slippery slope but ultimately consensual so it doesn’t bother me.
The initial point was more on the idea of lgbtq+ rights (or anyone’s rights) shouldn’t even be a political topic to begin with, as human rights shouldn’t a nuanced problem. Everyone should have a right to live how they please as long as they hurt nobody else. It shouldn’t be a question, as truthfully anyone’s existence alone shouldn’t hurt anyone else, and if it does then it sounds like the person being hurt is the actual problem.
That was a brief time well contained within the 20th century.
Going to Lemmy to complain about “left-wing extremists” is kind of funny especially since the instance’s only real political stance is promoting gay/trans rights.
Well, if you’re from the US, then that is radical left-wing extremism, sadly. Because we’re making huge leaps backward in some places as much as we’re taking huge steps forward in others.
You know, it’s fine. I have no problem with it, in the end it doesn’t effect anyone does it?