I wonder if this odd result is from the question not specifying trophy hunting vs. food hunting. If you eat meat it wouldn’t make sense to be against food hunting, but it would make sense if you think they’re hunting deer just to hang a big antler head on your wall
Good point. Most vegetarians and vegans I’ve met have had relatively favorable views of hunting for food, compared to animal agriculture, since it’s such a more sustainable and ethical way to acquire meat
Well, it can be. I knew a guy who talked about some of his (incompetent) deer kills in a way that made me pretty sure he was extending the suffering deliberately. That or he was just a callous dick and a bad shot.
He did kill himself in a 4-wheeler accident though, so sucks to suck I guess.
It’s British adults, not Americans. Private gun ownership is uncommon-to-rare, and hunting even less so.
It’s British adults, so you need to read almost everything through the lens of classism and/or class jealousy. Most hunting in the UK is done by the upper class - there are genuine outdoorsmen hunting types but the norm is posh folk hunting for sport.
Class permeates British culture unlike any other European society. And it goes beyond the rich:poor divide you’d see in America or say France.
The upper class look down on the working and middle class, viewing any self made money with disdain. Unless you’re a blue blood your money doesn’t really count. Money is not the only factor.
The working class in turn tend to view anyone who tries to climb the ladder as a class traitor or someone who doesn’t know their place. “Crabs in a bucket” if you will. Self made success is sneered at the same as multi-generational inherited (and unearned) wealth.
Nonsense. The class divide is significant but it’s purely down to wealth, not anything else. I can attest as someone who has climbed the ladder myself.
I think your American views on other countries might be a few centuries out of date.
Class permeates British culture unlike any other European society. And it goes beyond the rich:poor divide you’d see in America or say France.
The upper class look down on the working and middle class, viewing any self made money with disdain. Unless you’re a blue blood your money doesn’t really count. Money is not the only factor.
The working class in turn tend to view anyone who tries to climb the ladder as a class traitor or someone who doesn’t know their place. “Crabs in a bucket” if you will. Self made success is sneered at the same as multi-generational inherited (and unearned) wealth.
I have major doubts a majority percentage of American gun-owners use their guns for hunting. It’s more likely they don’t use them at all (for collector’s purposes) or just take them to a range. So the only consideration here should be the declared hunters but I’d need stats on the rates for each country.
My British passport, growing up, and living in the UK for decades argues otherwise, but sure thing mate.
New money Russian oligarchs get to rub shoulders with British elites and upper class, but proximity is not acceptance. Private school v public school is still a huge determinant to your life’s path even though Oxbridge offer superior education.
Hunting has never been a part of the general culture yes, but don’t try to tell me there isn’t classist attitudes towards deer stalkers and fox hunters. Press imagery rarely shows the actual attire, but focuses on the “Toffs on horseback” and tweed clad pheasant shooters, versus muck boots and Barbour jackets.
Surprised how many people were opposed to hunting deer with guns. I know that’s super popular in some places.
It makes more sense as the survey was conducted on British adults.
Ah, makes sense. In Texas, everyone does that lol.
I wonder if this odd result is from the question not specifying trophy hunting vs. food hunting. If you eat meat it wouldn’t make sense to be against food hunting, but it would make sense if you think they’re hunting deer just to hang a big antler head on your wall
Good point. Most vegetarians and vegans I’ve met have had relatively favorable views of hunting for food, compared to animal agriculture, since it’s such a more sustainable and ethical way to acquire meat
Well, it can be. I knew a guy who talked about some of his (incompetent) deer kills in a way that made me pretty sure he was extending the suffering deliberately. That or he was just a callous dick and a bad shot.
He did kill himself in a 4-wheeler accident though, so sucks to suck I guess.
“class jealousy”
😂
Class permeates British culture unlike any other European society. And it goes beyond the rich:poor divide you’d see in America or say France.
The upper class look down on the working and middle class, viewing any self made money with disdain. Unless you’re a blue blood your money doesn’t really count. Money is not the only factor.
The working class in turn tend to view anyone who tries to climb the ladder as a class traitor or someone who doesn’t know their place. “Crabs in a bucket” if you will. Self made success is sneered at the same as multi-generational inherited (and unearned) wealth.
Nonsense. The class divide is significant but it’s purely down to wealth, not anything else. I can attest as someone who has climbed the ladder myself.
I think your American views on other countries might be a few centuries out of date.
Historically the perception of the people who have “climbed the class tower” is usually very out of touch with the rest of us.
Class permeates British culture unlike any other European society. And it goes beyond the rich:poor divide you’d see in America or say France.
The upper class look down on the working and middle class, viewing any self made money with disdain. Unless you’re a blue blood your money doesn’t really count. Money is not the only factor.
The working class in turn tend to view anyone who tries to climb the ladder as a class traitor or someone who doesn’t know their place. “Crabs in a bucket” if you will. Self made success is sneered at the same as multi-generational inherited (and unearned) wealth.
I have major doubts a majority percentage of American gun-owners use their guns for hunting. It’s more likely they don’t use them at all (for collector’s purposes) or just take them to a range. So the only consideration here should be the declared hunters but I’d need stats on the rates for each country.
Nice bullshit, American.
The real reason (from someone who actually lives here) is that hunting isn’t really a part of our culture anymore.
My British passport, growing up, and living in the UK for decades argues otherwise, but sure thing mate.
New money Russian oligarchs get to rub shoulders with British elites and upper class, but proximity is not acceptance. Private school v public school is still a huge determinant to your life’s path even though Oxbridge offer superior education.
Hunting has never been a part of the general culture yes, but don’t try to tell me there isn’t classist attitudes towards deer stalkers and fox hunters. Press imagery rarely shows the actual attire, but focuses on the “Toffs on horseback” and tweed clad pheasant shooters, versus muck boots and Barbour jackets.
The headline says British adults so it’s not going to be applicable outside Britain.
I think that was added in later, but ya, makes sense lol (or I’m blind, either one)