• lohky@lemmy.world
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        Do you think a Trump win will end better for them? Shit, do you think a Trump win will end better for anyone?

        Go fuck yourself. People like you will hand him a victory.

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          I think calling Arab-Americans stupid for refusing to vote for genocide is racist. Harris is handing Trump a victory because she can’t cease US support for Israel.

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            I don’t think anyone is calling anyone stupid for calling for an end to the genocide. But what’s stupid is when people think that Trump will somehow stop the genocide.

            Oh and btw… I was banned from world news. LOL.

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              But what’s stupid is when people think that Trump will somehow stop the genocide.

              No one thinks this

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                Meaning these people are consciously assisting continuing what they believe is a genocide abroad AND making things worse here too?

                Or do they not understand FPTP voting?

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                  As so many Harris-voting lemmitors have instructed me, stopping the genocide is not on the effective ballot as-presented, so no, they are not assisting continuing what is absolutely a genocide. The goal is that they either pressure Harris to not be a ghoul, because they presume she cares about winning more than aiding genocide (this is most likely false) or, if Harris sticks to her guns and either loses or wins by such slim margins that it makes the Dem winning next election without stopping Israel much more hazardous, they (the Muslim/Arab voters) can extract concessions, because even electoral politics doesn’t end with one election cycle, and some strategies aimed at maximizing some long term result can introduce a risk or even a guarantee of short-term costs.

                  I don’t believe, like I think those voters do, that Dems would trade Israel slaughtering with impunity even for a guaranteed victory, but I think them demonstrating that unwillingness has its own value, since the DNC needs to be brought down. I don’t expect you to agree to this and am not terribly interested in persuading you, I’m just offering an explanation.

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                  The knee jerk response from lefties is that any insult or criticism of people who are members of a minority is racist, regardless of if it has anything to do with race (or race adjacent).

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                I think anyone that is not a billionaire that is not voting for Harris is a fucking moron. My views aren’t limited to Arab-Americans but I guess they can feel great about their virtue signaling while they’re in Trump’s deportation line getting sent to who knows where.

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                Then why not vote for the other people, who will possibly make it a slightly less bad genocide? What’s wrong with less bad?

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                  You’d have to ask them. If your family or the families of people in your community were being slaughtered by the incumbent administration, you might discover you have a red line after all. Fortunately for you, you’ll probably never really know.

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            I called white christians stupid motherfuckers for voting for Trump for what they believed were good reasons.

            Was that racist?

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              When you are faced with high numbers of marginalized people refusing to vote for candidates contributing to the genocide of friends, relatives, and people of a similar heritage, and your response is that they are “stupid,” rather than trying to understand why they are acting in that manner, you assert yourself as more “enlightened,” and the marginalized people as uniquely stupid. That is why it is racist.