• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    Zero surprise.

    The dems have always supported genocide very openly.

    These memes about the “leak” represent the only principles that they have - violent support for the procedures of the status quo.

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      So, exactly how far does Trump have to go for you to admit that “BoTh siDEs Are ThE samE” didn’t work?

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          So, you’re willing to kill 8 billion people and not actually save any?

          By that logic, no one should have worked with the racist Americans and or imperialistic British to stop Hitler. We’d have all died under the Nazis, but you’d be able to boast of how pure you were.

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            So, you’re willing to kill 8 billion people and not actually save any?

            You have entirely invented this comment.

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              Trump could turn the earth into a cloud of nuclear waste and it still wouldn’t be a justification for dems warcrime, idiot.

              Literally the comment I was responding to. If you know how to turn the world into a cloud of waste without killing anyone, please let us all know.

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                They said the actions of the Trump don’t give justification for Biden’s actions. You said they are willing to kill 8 billion people. Do you see how you’ve projected a view onto them?

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                  No.

                  This is what they said.

                  Trump could turn the earth into a cloud of nuclear waste and it still wouldn’t be a justification for dems warcrime, idiot.

                  If you think they meant something different, comment to them, not me.

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                    Where do they say they want or would support turning earth into a cloud of nuclear waste?

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      Republicans put national secrets at risk while bombing Yemen.

      You: The important thing to say about this is that Democrats support genocide.

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      lol the dems have always supported genocide?? Can you cite a single source for that bold af claim?

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          Okay, I’m not going to claim that US democrats are perfect but saying that they openly support genocide is extremely hyperbolic and undermines your argument.

          The US has done a LOT of terrible things and both parties had a hand in it. I wouldn’t say either of them support genocide.

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            The democratic party under Biden almost uniformly supported to the tune of billions of dollars in weapons, the ethnic cleansing, of Gaza. This is with knowledge of Israel using systemic sexual violence, collective punishment, school and hospital bombings, killing journalists and humanitarian aid workers, utilizing medical aid outfits as disguises for secret operations, and targeting civilian infrastructure.

            It is not at all hyperbolic to state the plain fact they openly support genocide, as openly supporting the actions in Gaza is openly supporting a genocide.

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              I think you can make a strong case that the US foreign policy in this region is garbage, and I agree with you, they’ve done terrible things.

              But I still don’t think that they would openly support genocide. If they had, I think you would’ve been able to find a source for that.

              Just so you don’t get the wrong idea here: I agree with what you’re saying but I disagree with the language you’re using. I think it undermines your point.

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                If you openly support, both verbally and functionally, an on-going genocide, you openly support genocide.

                Just because they didn’t say “We want to genocide the Palestinians.” at a press meeting, doesn’t mean that they don’t openly support the genocide they were funding, blocking criticism for, and suppressing protest of.

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                  Eh, I think id call it covert or something like that. Saying “openly” implies they like/enjoy genocide or something.

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                    I guess at a point we have to ask what is the purpose of drawing that line. If China says it’s begrudgingly purging the Uyghurs due to their cultural beliefs and the land they ingenious to, are they not openly supporting genocide? Does it matter if they say they like it in press briefings when the only actions they take is to further violence and propagate the ongoing genocide?

                    Why is the hypothetical cruelty in their soul the deciding factor, when they are opening doing the work that supports a genocide?