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      I’m okay with skeptical and verifying but he doesn’t challenge all his guests equally. I’m not saying he should be perfect, but there are some really far out ideas that need more questioning before I’m personally satisfied.

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        His show is entertainment first and foremost. That means glorifying stupid bullshit for the entertainment value of it.

        Most hard science is boring. Most fringe theory thinking is dramatic and thrilling.

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        I will also say it’s 2023, some things are past even being sceptical about.

        If you bring on a flatearther you aren’t being sceptical, you’re a moron.

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        he is a cunt, literally lied about how he heard they are putting cat litter into classes so that kids eho identify as cats have somewhere to go, then when called out on it that it’s bullshit he just said it’s a joke or something.

        the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn’t go everywhere

        it’s covered in Some more News’ Moral panic video

        https://youtu.be/oAeKAJFrb0w

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          the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn’t go everywhere

          Do Americans not realize how fucked up their country sounds to the rest of us when they do this kind of shit instead of controlling you-know-what?

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            We absolutely do. Our country has been captured and held hostage by a small minority of selfish morons.

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              Gun control is tricky; studies that I’ve seen show that a large majority want “dune kind of gun control” but any discussion of what that entails starts to get less popular in a hurry.

              I’ve found that many otherwise reasonable people get upset really quickly when the subject even gets brought up.

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      I love that though. I want to hear these wack jobs talk. I don’t listen to get smarter, just like I don’t go to McDonalds for a fine cooked meal.

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    The apotheosis of what a dumb guy thinks a smart guy sounds like.

    The manifested avatar of a crowd of drunk college kids having an uninformed debate.

    The patron saint of mansplaining.

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      From my knowledge of them (which is sadly non-zero), I think Ben Shapiro fits the first description better.

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        my favorite Shabibo moment was when he had a “debate” with a famous Tory broadcaster in the UK and got dunked on so hard he called him a leftist. chefs-kiss

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      Nobody, not even dumb people, think Joe Rogan sounds like a smart guy. They think he sounds like a relatable (dumb) guy who talks to smart guys.

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      Nah they are wrong, Joe isn’t a dumb guy, he’s not doing what he’s doing because he’s some dumb meathead, he’s doing it for money, fame, and to finally be part of the in-groups, which means power, he finally has a president(Trump) that accepts him and hob knobs with him.

      Joe has always been a cynical self serving libertarian type, if you went back and listened or watched some of his old standup comedy you would get a better idea of how far Rogan has fallen, he’s become a lot of what he hated. There was a time when people used to think that Joe would be the next George Carlin, now he’s just a more palatable and successful Alex Jones.

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          Who said it was clever? Joe didn’t do clever comedy Joe did angry and cynical observational and political comedy. I’m not trying to call him clever or smart at all, he just isn’t as dumb as the meathead everybody tries to make him out to be.

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            You said: “Joe isn’t a dumb guy”. So, he’s not dumb, or clever, he just is. Like a rock.

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              Why do you keep trying to put your words in my mouth? If that’s what I wanted to say I would have said it, but I didn’t. I get that you want me to see things how you want me to see things but I don’t, so how about just taking my words at face value?

              Again, Joe isn’t dumb, he’s not being manipulated, and he absolutely knows who and what he’s inviting onto his show and what affect they will have both in the broader media and to his critics and fans, Joe is just being a greedy self serving fuckwad, and it’s working well for him so far.

              You can underestimate your enemies on your own, but don’t try to force me to make the same mistake you’re making.

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                I just quoted you.

                We disagree completely though, nothing about the way he presents himself suggests to me that this is calculated.

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              Clever isn’t intelligence, you can be average or smart and not clever. You can also be a bit dumb but also a bit clever. They are 2 qualities that can interact but are nonetheless separate.

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        Haha holy shit, it’s wild to even see Joe and George in the same sentance. It’s like thinking maybe the PT Cruiser could be the spiritual successor to the 1967 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 😂

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        Lol, it kinda reminds me of Joe’s whole “we’ve never seen a gorilla at peak gorilla” take.

        Joe is short, abuses steroids, probably isn’t too flexible, I can definitely see him falling off of the horse a lot while trying to shoot a bow from it.

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    The problem with Rogan is that he doesn’t have the knowledge or qualifications to push back against people spewing bullshit on his show, and so he ends up essentially making fringe, pseudo-scientific ideas seem equal to the mainstream expert consensus view.

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      the problem with rogan is that he agrees with the worst people on his show. he doesn’t push back because he doesn’t want to. he peaked on news radio.

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      And the outspoken wrong on the show people are oftentimes cool and charismatic, so people trust them.

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    I stopped listening to his podcasts when I realised he doesn’t know the facts and spews what he believes are facts. I admire him to hold a conversation for as long as he does and keep it somewhat entertaining but beyond that it’s nothing more than pseudo science.

  • If you told Joe that Apple own a warehouse full of genetically altered chickens that actually laid iPhones he’d stare at you, slack-jawed and wonder why this hasn’t been reported in the press. Just a fucking clown from his toes to his eyelashes.

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    While I understand and respect the dunking in light of his detrimental effect on politics and sanity in general, I feel it’s disingenuous to imply he’s stupid. He’s just smart enough to be dangerous

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      Dude has posited to guests on his podcast that he believes in forcing imprisoned people to be medical testing subjects.

      Dude has no idea who dude really is.

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    Listening to the podcast “History of philosophy without any gaps” there’s some philosophers, specially in middle age Arabic societies, that had the patronage of warlords, and would change patron for the new warlords who killed their previous one.